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Old 06-30-2016, 08:30 PM   #1
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Novritsch Upgrade Kit vs Traditional Upgrades

I was curious as to the difference between the following parts listed and Novritsch's VSR upgrade kit being sold on his site.

Action Army Zero Trigger- $125.00
Action Army VSR-10 Spring Guide-$23.95
Prometheus 433MM 6.03 Barrel- $58.99
Laylax Dampers- $19.99
Action Army VSR Cylinder Kit- $59.95
Action Army VSR Hopup Chamber- $55.00
Maple Leaf 70 Degree Bucking- $6.80
Laylax PSS10 170SP Spring- $28.00

TOTAL: $377.00 + Shipping - Some Promo Codes



Novritsch's upgrade kits' advertised cost is $450-$490 which includes installation. Has anyone here purchased this upgrade kit? Novritsch states he has sent 40,000 shots from only one upgrade. Is this all just talk to get people to buy his upgrade kit or do you believe him? I assume all of these parts are better quality than Novritsch's upgrade kit but does anyone have the definitive answer? Is the upgrade kit a rip off or should I purchase it? Thanks for the feedback in advance.
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Old 06-30-2016, 08:54 PM   #2
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Get the upgrades that you listed. You will have better durability and also air seal
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Old 06-30-2016, 09:32 PM   #3
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I own an EDGI upgrade kit for my Ares 338 MSR. It's made by the same guy who does Novritsch's kits.

As of right now, I've fired 10k rounds through my gun and my internals are still in tip top condition. The quality of the kit is no joke. I'm not sure what the post above me is talking about in terms of better air seal, since there isn't anything above 100% air seal, of which both systems are fully capable of. The biggest difference here is the premium you are paying for the EDGI kit. The sears are made out of steel that is rated probably a lot higher than what you need for airsoft, and the other stuff is machined really well, but I digress. The barrel is also considered the highest quality barrel currently available for purchase anywhere.

Unfortunately, I'm not a very big fan of the VSR kit simply because it isn't a 90 degree setup. Until EDGI whips together a nice zero trigger or at least a 90 degree VSR kit, I would go with the list of upgrade parts instead of kit. Also, you would probably want the AA chamber and ML bucking anyways even if you went with the Novritsch kit. EDGI makes fantastic stuff, and I'd honestly recommend his stuff for the more one off style of sniper rifles (mostly ares sniper rifles since there are quite literally no upgrade parts anywhere else), but for something like a VSR10, which has a plethora of other options, you probably get more bang for your buck from other brands. Now, if you get the EDGI kit, will you be disappointed? Definitely not. I just think there are cheaper options that, with a bit of know how, you can probably get to perform similarly.
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Old 06-30-2016, 10:31 PM   #4
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Whale smash is right that you won't be dissapointed but I have heard of people doing full action army builds and getting results that are very good. For the steel sears that come with novritsch's kit, they are very strong but won't improve cycling. The action army zero trigger with an action army Teflon cylinder will give you extremely well cycling. The only thing edgi I would get is his barrel. His barrel is the best barrel on the market. Also the zero trigger never wears out. Edges steel Sears won't wear out either but the zero trigger allows smoother cycling due to the 90 degree trigger system compared to the 45 degree trigger system.
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Old 06-30-2016, 10:35 PM   #5
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Also I have heard that full action army builds have more consistent fps than edgi kits for some reason and I have heard that from quite a few people.
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Old 06-30-2016, 11:45 PM   #6
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I was under the impression that Prometheus/Laylax barrels are the best barrels on the market and edgi was a close silver medalist. Am I mistaken?
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Old 06-30-2016, 11:58 PM   #7
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EDGI takes the cake, closely followed by PDI. Prometheus tends to come behind those two.
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Price to performance, most go with Prometheus. Hence why people claim it is the best. For top of the line, Edgi.

As for comparing Edgi to AA... You will get quite a bit of mileage out of the Edgi. However it comes with a hefty price tag. If money is a factor then AA will suit you fine. I would still get an Edgi barrel.

This topic has been covered multiple times on here.
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Old 07-01-2016, 01:28 AM   #9
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Thanks for the tips guys, I will surely go with the edgi if it means more accurate shots.
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Get the list you have put up. It will be better because of the Zero Trigger and Teflon cylinder.
AA is very comparable to the quality of PDI, Laylax and Edgi
I had the Edgi piston and it is a couple of milimeters longer than a normal piston. This may not seem like much but the 2mm's extra compression for the normal piston gave me an extra 20fps. I tried many times to get the Edgi piston to the same fps but I could not get it to be the same. The idea of the cup style piston is good and I have high hopes for it but it just did not match the performance of the normal o-ring piston.
Edgi is meant to have the best barrels and so if you want the best barrel, get his. But you probably will not notice much difference between an Action Army barrel and an Edgi. One down thing about the Edgi barrels is that they are brass and it can scratch reasonably easy.
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Lol, no, contrary to popular belief, the novritsch kit is not an accuracy upgrade, it's a durability upgrade. Performance only increases slightly if you just upgrade the barrel and the trigger sears don't improve cycling one bit. Only the barrel is good. The rest (such as the cylinder) is strong but overkill, a teflon cylinder yields a nicer bolt pull. And 45 degree triggers just downright suck. Sorry, but that's the truth

A zero trigger will serve you much better. Also, an AA chamber + maple leaf + good barrel will definitely be more accurate than an edgi barrel with a stock chamber and some bucking. Edgi does make the best barrels (definitely not the silver medalist), but as for the rest of the parts... Better alternatives can be had for a lower price.

In other words: avoid the novritsch kit.
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Old 07-01-2016, 10:20 AM   #12
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I was very impressed with the quality of the action army cylinder set and the hop-up chamber. Granted, I like the design of the PDI parts more, but action army really produces some great stuff.
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