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Old 03-20-2017, 11:35 AM   #1
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Elite Force H8R- so good we bought two.

Elite Force made H8R poly revolver, and it changed the game.

LSS- this is an excellent value, shoots well, and will keep MED rushers off your snipers, support gunners, and DMR devotes. Get one when the next shipment comes in May.

We went and bought two of these little devils. One from Airsoft GI, and one from Evike. The Evike purchase was because ASGI sold out! 2000 units vaporized in a week! They are going fast because they are worth every penny of $64.

Value- reliability- accuracy- dependability-innovation- all these words are the talons Elite Force uses to rip into their competition. Clutching the hard won respect and confidence that is lacking in much of the rest of the airsoft industry.

The H8R revolver : Its good engineering. They are embracing the fantasy side of airsoft's affection for "weaponeering"

All the real steel clone revolvers are available, but the MFGs messed it up! All those models shoot too hot, or too slow. They break, are unreliable, heavy, and tend to be expensive.

EF created the H8R and ended that trend.

Its beautiful in a baroque sci fi way.
The gun feels solid. It is well balanced. It has a good weight. The grip is ergonomic and fills the hand. Like all revolvers it has a long, mild, double action trigger pull. The loading disks are easy to feed in and out of the assembly. The polymer is tough. It is dent, scratch, and heat resistant. The sights are lower profile, but easy to acquire over the wide flat spine of the revolver. It can accept lights, lasers, and optics.

The dimensions of it are Kydex holster friendly, Ive made 3 so far and there are plenty of good retention aspects for molding. But lets face it- most players are going to stuff it down a M4 mag pouch and call it a holster.

Shooting the beastie- 330fps with .20, and a fresh cyl of CO2. I ran 150 shots and still did not need to exchange the CO2. Some claim to be able to get 200 shots, but I would swap at 175. Point of Aim Accuracy to 50 ft. Aim at the head to hit the chest at 100ft. There is no hop. For intra-building CCC/CQB this will perform well. You won't be clearing the whole of complexes with a 10rd disk, but taking out a room of bad guys is well within its capabilities. Reloading is bolt action easy. The disk retention stem is sprung, and has a detent to lock it open. Simply exchange disks, thumb the release of the disk axle, and continue the engagement.


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These two cross draw configurations are on my Wife, and Son's rigs. They are tiny people, and like the easy to reholter placement.
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Old 03-20-2017, 08:00 PM   #2
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I have this gun and must say it's not as good as you make it out to be. The accuracy and range are absolutely terrible.

Sure, it's the best revolver out there in terms of effectiency, but as this is airsoft SNIPER forum.. I can't recommend this gun as a primary sidearm for snipers. Is it usable? Yes. Is it ideal? No.

Pros.

Cheap
Cool
Feels great
Looks great
Best in class (revolver)
CO2
Efficient gas usage


Cons.

Range
Accuracy
Loud!
10 round disk capacity
No hardshell holsters (to buy)
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Old 03-20-2017, 10:35 PM   #3
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I have this gun and must say it's not as good as you make it out to be. The accuracy and range are absolutely terrible.

Sure, it's the best revolver out there in terms of effectiency, but as this is airsoft SNIPER forum.. I can't recommend this gun as a primary sidearm for snipers. Is it usable? Yes. Is it ideal? No.

Pros.

Cheap
Cool
Feels great
Looks great
Best in class (revolver)
CO2
Efficient gas usage


Cons.

Range
Accuracy
Loud!
10 round disk capacity
No hardshell holsters (to buy)


How far were you planing on shooting? I have no issue hitting 100ft 10x10 with .20 BBs?

Its no 18rd 1911, but it is a fantastic sidearm for its price and role.
Never understood the whole "loud" thing in airsoft.

.... If you want to do more than dust a MED rusher, its not your gun. If you want to dual role, get an AEG SMG. ( For $150-200)


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Old 03-21-2017, 12:53 AM   #4
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A snipers sidearm needs to be able to stand up to AEGs and the like. Having only 10 rounds before reload, having to aim 3 feet above someone's head, and being loud AF isn't ideal.

"The whole loud thing in airsoft" applies to those who enjoy being a stealthy sniper/marksman. Just ask anyone with a TM MK23 why they love it so much. As little attention drawn to you the better.

Now.. I do believe this gun is worth $65, and can indeed be used as a snipers secondary. But my point was simply that this gun is not a GOOD sidearm for snipers (especially those who like stealth).

Am I comparing apples to oranges? Maybe.. But anyone who's serious about sniping in airsoft should invest in a more convenient secondary. For your everyday AEG/HPA user.. I'd say why not.
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Elite Force H8R- so good we bought two.

You said serious and airsoft in the same sentence...

....were taking shots at each other at under 100m. Pistols are for MED encounters. Not for going head to head with raiders. Like I said - if you're gonna dual roll get a sub gun.

Our bolt guns and semi auto sniper/DMRs only outrange the average rifle by 50 ft. And travel time is .73 of a second to 250ft with a 32 or heavier BB. We have to shoot from ambush. And the same goes for our use of a side arm.


When Im playing- I move after every target I hit. Sometimes I relocate, sometimes I just switch windows. When I forget to, I get shot. My MED is 100ft so most shots are 150-250 ft. When its getting dicey, and the other team is getting close, I displace. I dont stand and fight fully automatic weapons with a bolt action.

Ten rounds is plenty for when you are cornered. And I make it rare day to get cornered.

As far as bb drop off- shoot .20s in a pistol. They call pain better than they call patter.




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I would not say its not an option. To be honest, its a bit appealing in some aspects.

For the price tag, I expect to see more people with these at my local field. To counter my shenanigans... Which is to wait for the HPA guys to get close to me and I break their MED (20ft) and kill them with my pistols as most of them do not pack a secondary, and thus can do nothing but take it.

For them this is a god send. For me, more challenge.

Lets look at the price tag for running an MK23 setup like mine.
Gun-$170 (what I payed for mine. new)
Magazines- $25 x 3 - $75

So grand total of $245, with a round count of about 100.
*this is not including holsters, mag pouches, or gas ...
For the H8R-
Gun-$65 (included is 5 magazines)
Magazines- $10 for 2- $50
Total -$105

Factor in the gas usage, Green Gas or Propane, GG is between $8 and $15 per can, Propane, $4 per bottle, ~$20 for a good adapter. Co2 Carts, $16 for a 40cnt box.

Still cheaper to run then the TM.

The weight savings alone from the magazines will be nice. Now I know someone will say, "How do you carry that many mags with out them flopping everywhere in a pouch?!?!"

I'll give you this... If you dont get it, you are far to dumb to use it.

It does have a draw back, no hop up. I am fairly sure you can mod it like win gun revolvers though, in theory...

I may pick one up and have it for my loaner kit. Dunno yet.
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Old 03-22-2017, 02:22 AM   #7
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Yes, I did say serious and airsoft in the same sentence. Sooo taboo haha.

I never suggested taking on a dual roll. I was simply bringing light to the matter that the H8R doesn't stand much of a chance going head to head against an AEG while in MED range. There are times you will need to hold a position or will be ambushed yourself. It happens to all of us now and then. A solid secondary weapon is vital to a sniper in such situations as those.

As this is a forum dedicated to airsoft snipers I can't recommend this gun to any sniper, unless they are on a very tight budget. Don't get me wrong, I do like the H8R. I just don't believe it's a very effective sidearm for a sniper. A lot of times 10 rounds just won't cut it. Especially when clearing a building.

Even elite force said that the gun was designed to shoot at targets within 50 feet. That's half my MED. Obviously it can shoot 100 feet, but the BB drop takes away a lot of the satisfaction for me personally, and makes it more difficult to hit the target. I like my BBs flying where my sights are pointed.

If you wanna give yourself more of a challenge, or are simply on a tight budget.. Then by all means pick one up. It's a neat gun, feels great, and looks badass. I'll leave it at that :)

2 questions:

1. What weight BB have you personally found to be the best with the H8R?
(I've used .20s and .30s and didn't like either)

2. How do you store your spare clips?
(Currently using an EMT pouch but they bounce around an awful lot. Plazmaburn's idea looks great but where can I get some?? Haha)
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You build it, i am pretty sure you can build one from common parts at your local hardware store. (IE: lowes, home depot, whatever your equivalent is in your area)

Guess I will have to get one now.... I must build something...
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Old 03-24-2017, 06:19 AM   #9
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The solution:

The H8R Biscut Basket by Airsoft Vulture Tech ( on Facebook) there is a video.



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