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Old 10-05-2016, 01:20 AM   #1
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Oh No! can you make long shots with the mancraft SDiK?

I am interested in buying a mancraft SDiK and i was wondering if you are able to make shots at least 250 feet? Beacause right now i do have a pretty sufficient spring system and i would like to get the mancraft because of it being quiter, shorter bolt pull, achieving high fps without killing your arm, but the one thing i have been unsure about is how far it can shoot. can someone please give me their best attempt at answering this before i spend 237$ on hpa system that might be worse than my spring system.
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Old 10-05-2016, 06:31 AM   #2
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??? accuracy and range are given by the hop up assembly + the output FPS. If you set your SDiK to the same FPS you're getting from your spring, you'll keep your distance. Or even increase it, cause gas guns tend to have higher and easier to achieve energy creep
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thanks!, i was just really worried because I didn't want to buy it and then be able to make good shots.
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Old 10-05-2016, 05:08 PM   #4
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Yeah any HPA or CO2 rig technically has higher power potential...
You'll be able to adjust your power output to the same level or higher than your current spring. But you realize you'll need a regulator..? How informed are you on this topic? If you want me to go into detail on what a rig requires, I'd be happy to help.
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If you are not too familiar with HPA, you should really read this thread: Airsoft gases and external gas rigs
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Old 10-05-2016, 09:09 PM   #6
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I know thati need a regulator i have done At least 5 hours of research but the thing people never really specified was if you could make pretty long range shots with this kit. since it is so cheap i was pretty weary about its capabilites.
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since it is so cheap i was pretty weary about its capabilites.
Not sure if that's a typo, sarcasm, or I am just poor
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Not sure if that's a typo, sarcasm, or I am just poor.
Language check...

I feel where you are coming from.



Being cheap does not translate to quality or lack of it when you are dealing with HPA. Considering the fact that you are dealing with highly compressed gases that under the wrong circumstances could blow up and cause great bodily harm. However, such accidents are uncommon, bordering on rare.
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Not sure if that's a typo, sarcasm, or I am just poor as fuck.
compared to having to upgrade to a 90 degree setup with a powerful spring it is cheap. That is because you are perfectly fine using the stock trigger with it.
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I know thati need a regulator i have done At least 5 hours of research but the thing people never really specified was if you could make pretty long range shots with this kit. since it is so cheap i was pretty weary about its capabilites.
Well yeah Mancraft's website shows example data on the SDIK's power output up to a pressure of 15 bar, or 217 PSI. That pressure level is waaay above what most people would ever even consider shooting at (think 80-100 PSI being average).

That being said, BB weight is the main factor in range, so your question was just a bit odd. It would've made more sense to ask if HPA/CO2 systems are capable of the same power levels of spring systems.
I'm not ragging on you, just explaining my rationale in perceiving you as being newer to airsoft systems, offering more help.

Solid research concluding the SDIK is 'cheap' comparatively; most wouldn't come to the same conclusion- I take it you researched the cost of building a durable and powerful spring system?
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compared to having to upgrade to a 90 degree setup with a powerful spring it is cheap. That is because you are perfectly fine using the stock trigger with it.
90 USD Airsoft Pro V3 trigger + 15 USD Action Army M150 to replace the crappy ASP spring = 115 USD.

140 USD for Mancraft SDIK + 85 USD for the CO2 adapter and regulator = 225 USD. Almost twice the cost of the typical ASP upgrade.

If going for HPA, the cheapest way I know of is 50USD for a 48/3000 SLP tank + 85USD for the Amped SLP rig. Adding the 140 SDIK that totals at 275USD, 2.4 times the cost of the ASP setup.

Still quite accesible for a HPA setup and everything, but I wouldn't ever say "so cheap"
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Never did the comparative math myself
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Old 10-06-2016, 07:22 PM   #13
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it isnt a typo i am broke as fuck too
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Old 10-18-2016, 11:20 PM   #14
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90 USD Airsoft Pro V3 trigger + 15 USD Action Army M150 to replace the crappy ASP spring = 115 USD.

140 USD for Mancraft SDIK + 85 USD for the CO2 adapter and regulator = 225 USD. Almost twice the cost of the typical ASP upgrade.

If going for HPA, the cheapest way I know of is 50USD for a 48/3000 SLP tank + 85USD for the Amped SLP rig. Adding the 140 SDIK that totals at 275USD, 2.4 times the cost of the ASP setup.

Still quite accesible for a HPA setup and everything, but I wouldn't ever say "so cheap"
Well mine is a stock tm so to get 500 fps I'd have to replace all the internals. From the trigger with piston to the cylinder(unless I drill into it and strengthen it with grub screws), spring, spring guide. So for me it would be cheaper to just get the Mancraft.

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Hi There,

I have the SDIK kit installed into my FN herstal spr a5m sniper rifle and am getting good accuracy upto about 260ft. As long as you have a decent barrel and hopup unit, rubber, etc you can get some amazing results!

You will need to find the right weight bb for your gun, I use the .40g ASG bbs and they are just fine for my setup. The thing I liked most was the fact you can just twist the top cap on the regulator and adjust the fps to anything upto about 600fps! My field only allows 450fps with .20g bbs and I can easily adjust to this fps within 2/3 fps!

You can even use with the new MARS regulator from mancraft now so that you can fit the CO2 adapter inside of your stock!

Overall I love the SDIK kit as it makes me feel competitive and it's really quiet with the o'ring mod and homemade suppressor I made!

Feel free to ask any questions :)
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