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Old 12-02-2016, 09:17 AM   #1
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Wolverine Bolt Install Diary

Dear Diary,

My wolverine bolt came in from the mail today. How excited was I. The packaging was reasonably nice, even came with a Bolt PVC patch. It went right onto my hat-velcro.

Later that night, I opened the package, and watch the youtube video over and over about how to install it. Sucks, because this is the only 'technical' install video. You'd think the video was in-depth, but when performing the install for the first time, you discover how badly that video is zoomed in, and the parts that you wish were not sped through.

The first surprise I experienced was that the trigger-switch, gets bolted onto the OUTSIDE of the trigger box. Requires some drilling to be done. It was simple enough, but how it gets positioned scares me. I liken the similarity to how the set-screw backs out on an AEG's motor. I imagine this needs to be adjusted from time to time.

Wolverine gives you 2 screws, but says they only use 1. It looks like if you only use 1, you create the set-screw like issue of the trigger slipping. If you bump it too hard, you may need to adjust. However, I'd recommend also using only 1... if you use 2, you permanently set the trigger into place, and may affect your future project upgrades.

I had to grind and sand the side of the trigger box to ensure the trigger got a flat surface to sit on.

The second surprise I experienced was the additional drilling required of the airlines. The generations of VSR clones are different than others, so the recommended drilling locations are not always available. The optimal place for drilling on the JG Bar 10 is based off a newer version of the clone.

On mine, the optimal drilling location already has a wide gaping hole in its place. The Wolverine Supported drilling location is just behind the wide-gaping hole, resulting in a longer bolt-pull. Or fan-suggested in-front of the wide-gaping hole(WGH), resulting in a super-short bolt-pull, with some drawback issues.

As I am working with the install, I am discovering how I worry about airseal issues. When putting the bolt into the cylinder, the cylinder-nozzle has a long shaft that slides into the end of the bolt pretty freely. However nothing pushes the bolt flush with the nozzle. There is an oring on the nozzle too, but not pushed up against anything. The fan-suggested drill in-front of WGH however reduces this issue.

They send a bunch of o-rings, some marked as extra by a little piece of paper. Yet the walkthrough does not show where to use the o-rings that are not marked as extra.

More thoughts later tonight... (pics maybe)

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Old 12-02-2016, 01:37 PM   #2
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I received mine yesterday and I started to install, i use the two screw for the trigger and I kept the safety of the cylinder which forces the cocking lever to pull down to shot.
I have not yet drilled the hole in the receiver, I still wonder or is the best place, you can show me in the picture ?
Yellow is the place where Wolverine drill on the installation vidÚo.
Red is better ?






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Old 12-02-2016, 02:10 PM   #3
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Based off of your pictures, it looks like you went with the more stable route on the trigger switch. Wolverine doesn't outright say it, but your protecting yourself from bumps in the field, and creating a situation where your rifle wont fire because the placement has slipped. Good on you. Problem with that second screw, is you can't adjust your trigger placement. 50/50 trade off.

Good news, you can simply remove the bottom screw, and regain your adjustability.

Now to your question, and great picture example. I've modified your image a bit.



Problem is, I don't have an answer for you here just yet. I do however have a pending email to Wolverine Airsoft. I'll post their response soon.

Yellow is the "by the book video" direction for the drill placement. However, there is a WGH(Wide Gaping Hole) there.

In Wolverine's Video channel, they said Blue dot(pictured) is the alternative placement. This is supported by Wolverine.

However, the Red dot(pictured) is the player recommended drill spot. The drawback to drilling here is a super short bolt pull. Not all bolts can clear that, or ensure a BB properly feeds. Drill it wrong, and you BB wont feed. Can't really re-drill it either.



Another player on this forum has suggested that wolverine offers a Derlin Plug that you can request ONLY via email. This plugs the WGH, and provides a solid place for you to drill. I'm still waiting on my response fro Wolverine Airsoft on this.

Personally, I'm thinking of drilling the Blue dot for now. Wont hurt the gun to drill the yellow dot once wolverine airsoft sends me the plug at a later time, and move it.

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Old 12-02-2016, 03:14 PM   #4
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On the vidÚo of Bolt installation, there drill in the middle of the WGC no ?

https://youtu.be/ZFRpXwGPWVQ

What is the Delrin Pug ? It's for drilled where ? (blue ? Yellow ? Red ?)

Sorry i don't understand all, i'm french^^

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Old 12-02-2016, 03:24 PM   #5
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In the video, they drill the middle of the Yellow dot. However on our rifles, there is nothing to drill because there is already a WGH. Which sucks, because that hole needs to be tight around the airline-plug.

A Delrin Plug is supposed to be offered by Wolverine Airsoft to fill the gap of the WGH. It's drilled for Yellow.

You can also make your own, or simply drill blue.

If your risky, you can drill red.
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Old 12-02-2016, 03:57 PM   #6
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My rilfle is a VSR10 Gspec.
I can drill on the yellow, the hole is not fully open, it's same as Wolverine vidÚo
I think i'll try the red, if i failed, go for the blue ^^

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Old 12-03-2016, 11:23 AM   #7
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Finally, i think i'll drill on the Orange.

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Old 12-03-2016, 06:52 PM   #8
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I was (and still am) incredibly pissed off for the amount of modification I had to do to get the Bolt installed.

For a $325 system, mount the fucking switch inside the trigger like the Jack trigger board.

Not to mention mine didn't ship tightened all the way, despite the "Quality Control" sticker saying it was. Caused leaks until I tightened the bolt by hand.

My JST connector wasn't fully crimped on from the factory for the trigger and it fell off. I had to take the JST connector from another project and solder it.

You got extra o-rings? I got nothing extra.

End results still worth it, but jesus christ wolverine.
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Old 12-04-2016, 12:58 AM   #9
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Yes, i got a bag with other little o-rings.
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Old 12-04-2016, 05:20 AM   #10
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I got a bag of other o - rings too...
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Old 12-04-2016, 02:51 PM   #11
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ZeroHawk see this thread on how to deal with the big hole:

Wolverine BOLT in Well MB-02
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Old 12-05-2016, 09:54 AM   #12
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I install the sytŔme today. I drill on the orange, it's hard because the metal is very very thin on the WGH and the drill hangs instead of drilling :/ but it work.





Concerning the sealing, the o-ring on the nozzle is useless because it never touches the system ...
So I added a very very light spring with a washer and another o-ring.


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Old 12-05-2016, 10:01 AM   #13
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Ugh. Update from me. I don't have the orange option on mine. I drilled the Blue option, and it was a cluster fuck because now the bolt handle wont seat properly/trigger wont screw in because stuff is in the way. It's drill the Wolverine Vide Instruction (Yellow) or nothing for me. I am finding that the Orange location seems to be potentially good as well.

The link Ghost Bear sent is going to be the route I take. I also emailed Wolverine for the Derlin plug. Hope I don't have to make my own. But I'm probably going to fashion something out of Warhammer40k green-stuff for mine for temporary.


Edit: nevermind on using the Warhammer40k green-stuff plug idea. I'm just going to go the cutting board route, and do some dremeling. This was supposed to be much more drop in than it was.... Wolverine Bolt2 2017 anybody?

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Old 12-05-2016, 10:04 AM   #14
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Anybody else see some early product photos where it looks like the Bolt was supposed to come with a spring similar to the rig Kyosuke setup? (Great setup and solution, btw)

Kinda can't help but notice the Wolverine install video was now doctored to now show that spring setup.
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Old 12-05-2016, 10:52 AM   #15
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What vidÚo show that spring setup ?
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