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Old 04-20-2017, 12:10 PM   #1
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About the Mancraft SDiK/ MARS and the PDiK/MASS

The SDiK arrived a few days ago, never have i used CO2 or HPA, im running it with the MARS regulator in my BAR10, the mars fits perfectly inside the stock along with an external gauge (ill post pics and review in another post) the consistency started bad but as i use it more i see a significant increase in it to the point of various shots diplicating exact numbers, now, so far i think i have it up and running properly but i would like to know any general tips and maintenance suggestions you guys have for it.

As for myself, i have a couple of questions:
ive seen videos about caring for co2 secondary replicas and they say to put a drop of lubrican in the top of the co2 cartridge, but those are running in a somewhat different configuration i guess, should i also lube the tip of the cartridge (given the fact that im running a mars regulator?) should i lube any other parts?

Ive seen videos saying leaving the co2 cartridge inside with gas will shape the seal to its form which could be a good thing IF i plan to ALWAYS use the same SHAPE of cartridge, but other videos say it slowly develops a small leak overtime, any comments/recomendations about this?

Right now im getting around 3 mags worth of co2 at around 400-500 fps (looking to shoot it at 550 but so far ive just set on consistency, trying to settle the regulator in by shooting a couple of mags a day at least before sunday), now, when i remove the cartridge without having used all the gas inside what i do is depressurize the mars regulator, shoot the replica a couple of times and then take out the cartridge which, when i unscrew it releases the remaining gas, my question here is, is this a proper way to take out the cartridge? should i be doing it differently?

Do i need to lube other parts of my BAR10? im running a EdGI 303 6.01 stainless steel inner with sugru patch and flatted maple leaf bucking.
Ive read a thousand times (not new to sniping but very new to pneumatic systems) not to lube certain parts of the replica but i dunno if SOME that changes when using co2 given that ive read its a "dirty"? gas.

I also purchased the MASS stock and the PDiK for a SR25 project, which i plan to use with a Ninja/gorilla 13/3000 tank with SLP regulator, do i need something else? i will have more questions regarding this thanks for all your help!
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Old 04-20-2017, 05:18 PM   #2
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I don't usually lubricate anything anymore, not even the cylinder, since I got an SDiK. I don't lubricate the CO2 cartridge. For sidearms this might be a useful thing to do, as it is necessary to lubricate the inside of a GBB sidearm frequently, and also you need to work with seals that aren't always perfect. So I can see why you would do this with a sidearm, but with the MARS you are only going to get oil in the regulator.

I don't have any special technique for removing non-empty CO2 cartridges, either. I just unscrew the adaptor and let the gas come out. Sometimes this will chill various components, so you really don't want to do it unless it's particularly necessary.
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Old 04-20-2017, 07:17 PM   #3
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Indeed, i try to empty the cartridge before removing, next sunday will be my first game with it and if i play like i normally do i wont spend more than 1 mag per game (we run at least 3 games per sunday) sometimes i only do 1 or 2 shots so i was kinda worried if by the end of the day i will still have to take out the cartridge with lots of gas and if that would be detrimental or require me to use lube to avoid damaging it.
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Old 04-21-2017, 01:01 AM   #4
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You won't do any damage by simply removing the gas cart, except possibly to yourself due to the extreme cool down from releasing a large volume of gas.
The SDiK already has all the lubrication it needs. Once in a while I'll take mine apart, clean it and relubricate the seals with a proper Teflon O ring grease.
Stick with carts from someone like Crossman and you'll be fine, or if you're really worried about 'dirty' gas then pay twice as much for the food grade bulbs.
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Old 04-21-2017, 10:50 AM   #5
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Got 15 GAMO cartridges, they have 5 stars on amazon, so maybe they are good?
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Old 04-21-2017, 12:47 PM   #6
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Releasing the gas causes extreme drop in temperature which is far worse for the seals than leaving them in.
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Old 04-21-2017, 02:31 PM   #7
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Releasing the gas causes extreme drop in temperature which is far worse for the seals than leaving them in.
Ok, then i guess ill have to slowly shoot it out :S, which by the end of gameday seems like a tiring chore, might aswell do it back at home once i get a shower hahaha, thanks for the input.
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