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Old 07-12-2012, 11:27 PM   #1
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New Sniper and Rifle

Hey guys!

Im new to the sniper spot on a team and im trying to learn as much as I can. I read through all the tips players have posted on these forums and they helped a lot! If anyone has any tips (tactics, ghillie crafting, ect.) for a new sniper please let me know by a post or pm!

Im currently using our teams Mauser SR Pro Tactical rifle, the bucking on it was torn in half before I had a chance to use it, so its a little hard for me to take full advantage of the pros that come with being a sniper. So im forced to keep my G36C on me when a situation turns really bad.

Now to the reason Im making this post in this section.
Im looking into buying my own sniper rifle and I have done a ton of research, but due to the fact im new to these types of guns I have probally over looked something. My budget is roughly $200. I plan on spending $100 on the rifle and $100 on the upgrades.

Heres what Ive came up with:
Gun:
JG BAR-10 w/Bi-Pod
$110 evike.com Sniper-JG-BAR10-Std
I really like the look of this rifle, the reviews and upgrades for this gun seem outstanding!

Upgrades:
VSR 10 Angel Custom Piston & Trigger Sear Set
$40 evike.com AC-VSR-01
VSR 10 Angel Custom Spring Guide*
$25 evike.com AC-VSR-02
VSR 10 Angel Custom Adv Piston*
$45 evike.com AC-VSR-10
VSR 10 Angel Custom SP170 spring (480-550)*
$15 evike.com AC-VSR-SP170

*I may swap out the spring guide, piston, and spring for this Angel Custom tune up kit to cut down the price. (so my wife dosent kill me)
VSR 10 Angeul Custom SP150 Tune Up Kit</SPAN>
$50 evike.com AC-VSR10-KIT01

Other variations of inital upgrades include a sear set, spring, tightbore barrel, and bucking.
Im thinking of using 0.36 BBs for long range, and it will keep my fps down. (Our teams field is 500 fps limit for sniper rifles)

Any suggestions please let me know!
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Old 07-13-2012, 12:58 AM   #2
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Angel Custom parts arnt all that great.
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Old 07-13-2012, 01:06 AM   #3
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I understand PDI and Laylax have some of the highest grade parts around, but I can only sink in so much cash into airsoft right now. Any "budget brands" that are somewhat quality?
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You should not buy cylinder parts first.

Instead you should buy a new inner barrel, I suggest prometheus, an R-hop and a nineball bucking. Then, shim your arm and perform teflon mods and other such mods to increase your FPS, but do not buy cylinder parts first.
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Old 07-13-2012, 06:26 AM   #5
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Agree with the above, don't forget the Dangerwerx hop up arm either cheese ;)

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Old 07-13-2012, 07:31 AM   #6
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Start from the front and work to the back sort of thing?
I heard about R-Hop units, they made longer contact with the barrel, but sometimes you will need to drill an extra long window in your barrel. I could be wrong.
I have never done the teflon mod, but ill look it up. I want my fps to end up to 450-500ish, but the most important part is accuracy and range.
Have you heard of the Matrix Snow Wolf VSR 10? Its about the same price as JGs BAR-10.
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Old 07-13-2012, 09:17 AM   #7
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First, you don't need the dangerwerx arm unless your current arm brakes, in which case get one of Cheese's arms and put on your own nub. Second, for the r-hop you don't need to cut the barrel, that is for the ER-hop, which stands for extended r-hop. I have the r-hop with a nineball bucking for the air seal and it works great, although I have been wanting to get the er-hop for some time now. You only need to do the teflon mod on the cylinder head, and that is if your o-ring on it isn't doing it's job. Don't do the teflon on the bucking because the dental floss or better yet, anti-blowback rings are better (basically clamps down the bucking so no air can get out).

Cheese, I think you were looking for this:
http://airsoftsniperforum.com/showthread.php?t=4314
That's the upgrading procedure.

When you get a bar10 you should do the TDC mod to counter the right hooking issue. Even if you don't have that right curve issue it is still a good idea to do it in terms of consistency. I have a link to the guide I made in my description.
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Old 07-13-2012, 09:46 AM   #8
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Go with this first.....

Your bar10 ..... $110

Parts...... keep the stock inner barrel and polish the crap out of it.
Piston $35
http://www.airsoftgi.com/product_inf...oducts_id=5709
Spring $15
http://www.airsoftgi.com/product_inf...oducts_id=3457
Mag $12
http://www.airsoftgi.com/product_inf...oducts_id=3499
Ammo $16
http://www.airsoftgi.com/product_inf...oducts_id=2266

Total $ 78

That will make sure that you have money for another mag, for a total of 3, or for a bucking that you like. Though if you do a few simple mods you can have a decent rifle, without an MED so you don't have to worry about a pistol. And if you are planning on carrying your G36 anyway you can use the sniper rifle for the most accurate of shots.
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Old 07-13-2012, 10:09 AM   #9
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I dont mind spending a little more than $200, i do prefer to get all my parts from evike. (20% off coupon this month) But if i can get better parts for good prices I dont mind ordering from more than one place.

Ill deff do all those DIY mods to increase consistancy and fps.

I dont plan on keeping my g36 on me when i get this new rifle. And for a new spring I know the sears are a must.
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I dont mind spending a little more than $200, i do prefer to get all my parts from evike. (20% off coupon this month) But if i can get better parts for good prices I dont mind ordering from more than one place.

Ill deff do all those DIY mods to increase consistancy and fps.

I dont plan on keeping my g36 on me when i get this new rifle. And for a new spring I know the sears are a must.
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Don't forget about a new bucking. Unless you want to get the r-hop right off the bat I would get the nineball bucking. Tht thing ges me a 100% air seal without any mods and before I got the r-hop it also gave a great consistency over a large range of fps.
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Okay, so lets recap.
Either RBucking, or Nineball Bucking
New barrel (promeitheus?)
New spring SP170 or a little lighter
New sears to hold up the spring
DIY mods (TDC + others)
Plus ammo and mags

Does that sound better? I feel like ill get more accuracy and range out of this build. And i can upgrade the piston and spring guide later as the gun gets more use. I just fear a strong spring will damage the stock piston and spring guide.
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If you plan on keeping the 45 degree sear system I would go for a lower spring. The 45 degree system normally can't handle springs that powerful. In fact I think it was designed to enforce the 1 joule limit in some places, although I could be wrong. I'm not saying it wouldn't work, I'm just saying you have a high possibility of slam fire and you will get increased wear on the sears.

One more thing, keep in mine that the Prommy barrels are the same as the Laylax barrel ad the Nineball barrel. I've been told they come from the same factory, just under different names. Don't hold me to that one though, get a second opinion on that.
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Old 07-13-2012, 05:27 PM   #14
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I was deff planning on a new sear set for the stronger spring, do they usually advertise if the set is 90 or 45 degs? Id like it to last, so the 90 deg sounds perfect.

As far as the barrels go ill deff keep that in mind. Prommy likes to have fancy colors and things, but youll pay for it. What size barrel do you reccomend? A 6.01?

And one more thing, the stock spring guide and piston will be okay under the pressure of such a strong spring? Im pretty worried about that.
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With the stock trigger you can only use 45 degree sears. To use 90 degree sears, you need to get a better grigger entirely, like the z-trig. The prommy barrel is known for it's 6.03 barrel. The .01 gets better groupings at closer ranges, such as 100 fo, but the .03 gets better groupings at longer range, like 250+. I got the 6.03 EDGI but I with I had gotten the 6.03 Prommy because I would rather the longer range. As for the stock spring and spring guide, they will not break immediately but they will wear much faster with that strong off a spring. I can't give you any estimate because all parts are made differently, different people use their rifles differently, and weather conditions are always different. I posted the link to Cheese's upgrading procedure before, so read through that to find out what to upgrade first.
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