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Old 10-03-2020, 12:48 PM   #1
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Hello,

my name is Marco, I am playing airsoft since the beginning of 2020. Im from northern Germany.

I play vsr 10.

My gun is shooting good, so I am trying to silence it now. Once it is silent, I will go deeper into the camouflage.

I hope I will find a lot of knowledge in this forum to step up my sniping.

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Old 10-03-2020, 04:56 PM   #2
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Welcome, glad to have another fellow sniper!!!!!

About silencing your gun, I can give you a ton of info on that, but first, do you have the pro or G-spec VSR-10 and what websites do you buy your airsoft stuff?
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Old 10-14-2020, 03:01 PM   #3
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Hi, thank you for the welcome.
I bought it from the friend that infested me with the need to shoot people with bbs.


It is an upgraded pro version sniper that shoots 70-80 meters.

Maple Leaf stock
bulltrigg one piece upper receiver 430mm
bulltrigg plus trigger
aa fluted cylinder,

scw 7mm and 9mm spring guide

rapax 3 joule aps2 spring
aa hop up chamber
maple leaf mr hop 60° bucking
stalker panthera concave nub
prometheus 413mm stainless steel inner barrel
3 bulltrigg barrel spacers


I usually buy the gun stuff from skirmshop. Some parts from longbow and the clothes from begadi.


I did the can mod, placed foam in the stock and around the inner barrel.


Next i plan to get a sorbo pad, maybe a selfmade mod from a mousepad or the laylax ones and a supressor. There I think about the edgi gated supressor and maybe the edgi sap piston.



Which upgrades can you recommend to me?
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Old 10-14-2020, 05:00 PM   #4
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Hello. Nice to meet a new member.
Maybe you could consider an airbrake piston like the wasp of the springer custom works.
New bolthandle maybe?
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Old 10-14-2020, 07:17 PM   #5
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Ok, cool, you have a pretty nice gun😎

I recommend a Springer Custom Works piston like Blackdog mentioned, as they usually seal great and have an airbrake to keep it quiet.
Next, a suppressor, the Novritsch SSX23 one with the 14mm adapter should do the trick, but you will also need another adapter to go from your gun to the suppressor.
Besides those mods, there really isn't much else, except the heaviest BBs that you can get, as they will take advantage of all of the cylinder volume.
I prefer .48, but .43 and .45 are also fine.
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Old 10-15-2020, 12:08 AM   #6
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I forgot to mention, that I have the scw piston with the long airbreak.


I have about 1.500 of the 0,45g bbs left. After they are used i could try 0,49g bbs.


I have perfect airseal in the gun. It feels, like the scw piston is very loud and thought about the sap piston, since it has rubber in the front and is weight adjustable.


To the supressor, its a very long gun, so I have about 15cm left to add a supressor, before the gun comes against my boots while running.


I saw the standard edgi supressors have a metal tube, to prevent any foam in the silencer from getting in the way of the bb. And i thought the gated supressor could work very well due to the gate. Did anyone see such a supressor in action? Or is all of that just theoretical talking?
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Old 10-15-2020, 10:16 AM   #7
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I forgot to mention, that I have the scw piston with the long airbreak.


I have about 1.500 of the 0,45g bbs left. After they are used i could try 0,49g bbs.


I have perfect airseal in the gun. It feels, like the scw piston is very loud and thought about the sap piston, since it has rubber in the front and is weight adjustable.


To the supressor, its a very long gun, so I have about 15cm left to add a supressor, before the gun comes against my boots while running.


I saw the standard edgi supressors have a metal tube, to prevent any foam in the silencer from getting in the way of the bb. And i thought the gated supressor could work very well due to the gate. Did anyone see such a supressor in action? Or is all of that just theoretical talking?
The suppressor with a metal tube in my experience works, but not nearly as well as plain foam with small holes.
The EdGi gate silencer looks interesting, but I am getting the feeling that your gun needs to be over volumed by quite a bit.
I think that your best bet right now is the SSX23 silencer along with some sort of dampener pad.
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Old 10-15-2020, 11:07 AM   #8
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what does over volumed exactly mean? How can I fix that?
Why exactly this supressor?
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Old 10-15-2020, 11:34 AM   #9
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what does over volumed exactly mean? How can I fix that?
Why exactly this supressor?
Over-volumed means that once the BB exits the barrel, there is wasted air behind it that could have propelled the BB more.
If your gun is perfectly volumed so there is no wasted air, I don't know if that suppressor would work.
Over voluming happens if your barrel is too short for the BB weight you are using, and it also happens with HPA/gas naturally as there isn't really a way to volume them as carefully.
Your setup should be just about right in terms of air volume, so I wouldn't worry.

I think that gated suppressor could in theory work, but you would probably have issues sometimes, and it would be more complicated.
A regular foam suppressor like the ones Novritsch sells are perfectly fine, and are hard to improve unless you have tons of experience under your belt.

Oh, I think I remember you have a Bulltrigger?
If that is the case, find the thickest most gooey grease you can get, and spread a big wad of that on the internal silver spring.
That will help a bunch with noise.
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Old 10-15-2020, 11:47 AM   #10
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I read, that i should put a small piece of foam and a lot of silicone grease inside the two springs in the trigger, i did so and the sound was reduced a bit.

If the wasted air exits the overvolumed gun, it probably makes a lot of noise, doesnt it? You say the air volume should be about right. Could a longer barrel (420 or 430mm) benefit me here or will my gun than lack air volume?
By installing the sorbopad i will reduce the cylinder volume by a small amount.

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Old 10-15-2020, 01:09 PM   #11
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I read, that i should put a small piece of foam and a lot of silicone grease inside the two springs in the trigger, i did so and the sound was reduced a bit.

If the wasted air exits the overvolumed gun, it probably makes a lot of noise, doesnt it? You say the air volume should be about right. Could a longer barrel (420 or 430mm) benefit me here or will my gun than lack air volume?
By installing the sorbopad i will reduce the cylinder volume by a small amount.
Yes, it will make extra noise, quite a lot in some cases.
I would suggest that you stick with the barrel that you have, as you would see very little if no difference at all, and it may actually lower your FPS.
I think that the sorbo pad paired with a suppressor will be about as good as it gets, everything past that won't be very important I have found.
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Old 10-15-2020, 01:16 PM   #12
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I will get a pack of sorbo pads and a supressor asap.

I dislike the fact, that I need an adapter for the novritsch supressor u mentioned but it has the advantage, that it is modular and comes with foam buffles already.

Than i will stick with the inner barrel. I thought a longer barrel means more fps and not less or does this only apply, if there is enough air in the cylinder to get the bb pushed out?
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Sounds great.

He JUST released a GEN2 suppressor that comes with an adapter for the same price of the old one, so that's cool.
Remember, you will need the other adapter mentioned that goes from the female threading on your rifle to 14mm counterclockwise.
I believe Action Army makes one, and so do some other companies.

As for the inner barrel, I suppose you could get a 430mm one, but that very likely would not change much of anything, in fact it may under volume you gun which makes it a little more quiet, but gives it bad accuracy.
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Old 10-15-2020, 11:26 PM   #14
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i have the adapter, that i can attach a 14mm ccw supressor on my gun, but the novritsch ssx23 supressor has a 16mm ccw thread.


It has no use, to make my gun quiet, if the accuracy suffers from that. Soon i can test a 430mm inner barrel from a friend, i will do so after installing the sorbopad and will see, what happens.
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i have the adapter, that i can attach a 14mm ccw supressor on my gun, but the novritsch ssx23 supressor has a 16mm ccw thread.


It has no use, to make my gun quiet, if the accuracy suffers from that. Soon i can test a 430mm inner barrel from a friend, i will do so after installing the sorbopad and will see, what happens.
His GEN2 suppressor comes with 16mm and 14mm threaded pieces, so all you need is that.

As for the barrel, it is possible it could get you more power and less sound, but we shall see.
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