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Old 07-28-2019, 12:04 PM   #1
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Flaming vs Autobot

Just found this excellent video by Filip Kotas comparing the new Flamingo bucking with the now well-established Autobot ones. Results speak for themselves... a video well worth every second :D

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Old 07-28-2019, 01:14 PM   #2
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I have some issues with the testing methods he used but otherwise well done.

His experience has actually been better than mine with the Flamingo when it comes to accuracy. That said, I have had ZERO issues getting mine to seal properly.

Mine tends to hook right extremely hard at 150ft+ and I may try a reinstall later today.

As far as his methods I took issue with, the main one was the fps test between the two buckings. Of course if you don't have proper seal it will be lower. That said, the flamingo seemed to be more consistent than the ML.

I say all of this not to defend the flamingo, but to state that he likely has either a piston inconsistency issue with fps jumps that extreme with a 100% sealing autobot bucking, or the ammo he's using (Novritsch) isn't as consistent as you can achieve with BLS. He should be able to be within +/- 5fps on heavyweight ammo. The .2g is a crapshoot because the bb quality is always poor.
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Old 07-28-2019, 03:35 PM   #3
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https://www.airsoftsniperforum.com/4...-buckings.html


An update of my testing today.
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For those like myself who are not seeing a video appear in the OP- the YouTube key:
watch?v=heiU8wGkmYg

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a video well worth every second :D
Worth a lot more than necessary- that's a HARD "nope" from me just after 1:24! The lack of security in this area of the system has always bothered me- there's no way in hell I would even consider a bucking that doesn't naturally fit tightly to the barrel. Absolute yikes.

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As far as his methods I took issue with, the main one was the fps test between the two buckings. Of course if you don't have proper seal it will be lower. That said, the flamingo seemed to be more consistent than the ML.
I mean honestly, having established that the Flamingo wasn't creating even a halfway-decent seal, any consistency readings are pretty much invalid, being random chance.
...Technically that's not true, as you COULD build a leaky and consistent system, but...I think that's a little off the rails.
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Old 07-29-2019, 02:01 PM   #5
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If the piston isn't sealing consistently or reaching full seal until it almost finishes the stroke, then I could see a situation where a leaky system WOULD be more consistent, as his rifle demonstrated.

Perhaps he's running an O-ring head and not a cup style. Not that he couldn't have a ripped or poorly sealing cup head, but the O-ring types usually don't reach full seal until later in the stroke.
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