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Old 08-09-2019, 09:06 AM   #1
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Novritsch SSX23

So he's released his Mk23 clone.

Looks to be a preupgraded Mk23 with Hadron style TDC, a tighter barrel, and autobot bucking. The slide is metal with fiber optics and has pre drilled RMR holes.

The gun does NOT include the suppressor.

Overall I think this is a net positive for the sport. Had he included the suppressor even for a slightly higher price I think this would be a must buy for people that don't already own a Mk23.

As it stands now the increase in availability of hard to get parts and cheap replacement parts is what I think will be the biggest benefit of him dropping into this particular replica's market. CO2 mags? Carbine kit? Easier availability of DTD holsters (plus now we know why they've been out of stock forever)? All net positives in my opinion.
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Old 08-09-2019, 10:26 AM   #2
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Well for one, i bought it, just to have a back up gun for my mk23. And a couple of mags too, and i hope Nov finally resolved the feeding issues with it like i had with the sti mags.
A couple of days ago i got finally my B-fab holster that took ages to get it because of the sold out. Should fit the ssx23 too. Once i have it, will post my impressions then.
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Old 08-09-2019, 12:01 PM   #3
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If I hadn't just bought a TM hi capa I would be buying this. TM Mk23 cost about $250 if you can find one? I wish this had come out a month ago...
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Old 08-09-2019, 01:16 PM   #4
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The biggest benefit is that it's somewhat readily available here state side (I say somewhat because it'll probably be out of stock pretty quick). Previously, the only way to get MK23's in the US was to either buy second hand or import it from overseas. Not a huge fan of it not including the suppressor, and once the promo price is gone, it'll be less appealing. All in all though, it's a reasonably good thing that it exists.
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Old 08-09-2019, 04:38 PM   #5
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Readily available and pre-upgraded, including an Autobot bucking. A very decent offering.
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Old 08-09-2019, 04:44 PM   #6
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As soon as I saw metal slide this morning I bought one. I’ve owned probably 5 TM MK23s over the last 15 years, and a few clones, but always feel like I’m going to break it in game. That, and the modular suppressor that I can shorten so it’s not hanging so low in game (but still keep long for plinking) is a huge plus for me.
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Old 08-09-2019, 07:14 PM   #7
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I've had my TM for 15 years. It's still kicking.

I JUST replaced the hammer spring, and it cost me almost as much as the whole $17 trigger group Nov is offering after shipping. So, like I said, I see the benefit as availability of the parts and accessories.

Also, he recommends .36g bbs. Whether that is because he's not with the times on heavier bbs in Mk23's, or because his cannot hop heavier than .36g without an H plate or similar addition remains to be seen.

I still think not including the suppressor (and now potentially any type of H or fang plate copy) is a poor move. If he offered a full package for the ~150-160 range I'd be in even though I have a fully upgraded TM just to have a backup.
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Old 08-09-2019, 07:17 PM   #8
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I’d actually order one right now for myself, but 1.1j won’t make it to Canada. We need minimum 1.27j to meet the import laws, ideally more like 1.5j to safely get through customs. Once that is offered (and still for 135 euro) I’d bite...
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Old 08-10-2019, 07:00 AM   #9
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The lack of H or fang plate might be explained by the brand new hopup arm pictured on nov's site. its a more flat design than standard TM hopup arm. I ordered a ssx24, just couldnt resist... even though i already have a TM version.

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Old 08-10-2019, 07:49 AM   #10
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Oh, I've seen the arm. My speculation was simply based on him recommending .36g on his website. Surely if the gun could hop heavier than .36g he would recommend that instead I would think (better performance and more money for him if they buy his bbs). Perhaps the lack of H/Fang plate is the reason why, even with the new hop arm.

Speculating further, perhaps his arm design was to skirt around any potential copyright or intellectual property issues with the Hadron design, as that arm could not be used with an H or fang plate without modification/swapping the arm out for another. Who knows?

Most Mk23 users with Hadron upgrades use .4 all the way up to .5g bbs according to a poll I remember seeing on ONMYMK. I use .43g myself, and while they travel slow to the target, they go much further and much straighter than most AEGs can shoot.
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Old 08-10-2019, 09:54 AM   #11
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Well KickingMustang just posted a comparison review. He states it'll lift .48g bbs out of the box but at range the SSX23 is not as consistent as a Hadron upgraded Mk23. This he says is likely due to the plastic TDC on the SSX23 moving about whereas the hadron TDC is rock solid when installed.

The hadron will fit the SSX23, but he hasn't tested to see whether it solves the inconsistency issues at distance.

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Old 08-10-2019, 12:20 PM   #12
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I think that for once, he made the right choice for a gun and upgrades, the metal slide with fiber optic really tempts me but the TDC+Autobot bucking is the real reason this can be a great OOTB gun.

I have nailed a new STTI for a low price and will be upgrading it with some 3D printed stuff if not, I would be very tempted by this, but I sure will be on the lookout for the CO2 mags, just hope they are not more expensive than a whole new STTI gun

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Old 08-14-2019, 10:33 PM   #13
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Got the DTD holster in today. I figured I'd pick one up before they went out of stock for months again.

Fits my TM Mk23 with Silverback suppressor perfect. No wobble. No rattle. Solid engagement. The hex wrench holder for hop adjustment is a nice touch.

I can't comment to whether this new injection molded model is improved over the old 3D printed ones as I don't have one to compare to. I will say this one is solid, no creaking. I wouldn't worry about durability in game unless you fell on it or similar.
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Old 08-15-2019, 03:17 PM   #14
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So my SSX23 came in today. I’m kinda disappointed. The build quality is fine. Aluminum slide, solid feel, nice sights and easy hop up adjustment- all great.

The issue I have is the barrel to modular suppressor fitment. It’s off. When threaded on, no matter how many times I try, the suppressor is slightly angled towards the right. Bbs hit the foam and they jam up inside starting to jam and shatter. It seems to work in the mid length suppressor configuration, but I can still tell it’s slightly angled. Pretty annoyed, but I get that manufacturing/QC incidents happen. Happens to me in my day job, no biggie, as long as the situation gets rectified. I’ve reached out to customer service and waiting on a response. I have no reason to doubt they’ll fix the situation, but I’ll post up once I hear back.

The gun without the suppressor shoots great, though the trigger is a bit sensitive in a way that it’s prone to double feeds. It’s probably mostly me, But will be curious to hear if anybody else experiences this
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Old 08-15-2019, 05:51 PM   #15
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Mine is due tomorrow, so will report back once I have fired it a few times etc and maybe used it in a game or two
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