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Old 11-14-2019, 04:17 PM   #1
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It seems that within the community the general consensus is that 100 (not 300, oops) meters is the general goal for an airsoft sniper to reach effectively. It would seem that this is generally done with a VSR variant with a few Benjamin's to spare, if you know what I mean. I have had a pain of a DMR that I'm getting ready to sell, and since funds will generally be pretty slow after my initial rifle purchase and whatnot, a few of y'all kind citizens have recommended that I purchase an A&K M24. My question is, with mods and upgrades like perfect compression, an ML hopup rubber and some nice inner barrel with a TDC mod, am I able to make a sub $250 rifle that can reach that beautiful 100 meter range? By the way, this will be my first BASR build.

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Old 11-14-2019, 04:23 PM   #2
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100 meters. Not 300.
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Old 11-14-2019, 04:38 PM   #3
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100 meters. Not 300.
*Insert facepalm emoji here.* I was thinking approximately 300 feet. Man I feel stupid. Thanks for the correction, but if there WAS a 300 meter airsoft gun that would be....INSANE.
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Old 11-14-2019, 04:38 PM   #4
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You mean 100 meters, or 300 feet. No airsoft sniper will reach 300 meters ever.

A budget 100 meter max range build is feasible. An A&K M24 with Maple Leaf hop arm, bucking and barrel, and some love will get you in the thereabouts for a total cost of about $225, maybe less if you find some discounts in these days.

But remember that actual effective, field-practical max range is about 60-70 meters, don't go around thinking you'll be hitting people 100m away all day, any day, 'cause that's simply not gonna happen with any airsoft BASR.
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damm, A&K M24 hard to find at asia these days....
always love to try get one but no luck. Snow wolf.... Ughrrr, bad.
CYMA, ok nope. priority hop-up
Classic army? bad overall.
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damm, A&K M24 hard to find at asia these days....
always love to try get one but no luck. Snow wolf.... Ughrrr, bad.
CYMA, ok nope. priority hop-up
Classic army? bad overall.
I can purchase one from evike for like $115, so I'm looking forward to put heading one. Lots of room for goodies!
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Like anything, if you shop for deals and piece together the right budget parts, it could be done.

I personally think giving yourself a budget above 300 and closer to 400$ would make your life easier both when it comes to sourcing parts, and making sure you're buying stuff that will fit without modification.
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Like anything, if you shop for deals and piece together the right budget parts, it could be done.

I personally think giving yourself a budget above 300 and closer to 400$ would make your life easier both when it comes to sourcing parts, and making sure you're buying stuff that will fit without modification.
Again, $300 is my starting point. A budget gun would be nice, but my overall question is whether a budget gun (with upgrades of course) can perform just as well as an upgraded VSR. I know that if I bought a Bar 10 and zero trigger I'd already be near the limit of my initial funds.
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Well, as others pointed out, the answer to your question is yes.

But just because it's possible to do something doesn't mean it's the best idea.

If you're starting at 300, get the base rifle and hop up sorted and go from there. Upgrade the power last as that will be the most expensive part of the upgrade due to needing upgraded parts around the spring that will hold up. Going slow and building up like you're planning is really the smartest way to do it as it makes it easier to identify problems as they arise.
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Like anything, if you shop for deals and piece together the right budget parts, it could be done.

I personally think giving yourself a budget above 300 and closer to 400$ would make your life easier both when it comes to sourcing parts, and making sure you're buying stuff that will fit without modification.
So I've been on and off this forum for years, but have gotten more serious about airsoft sniping the past few months. The consensus has always been that you need probably a minimum of 400 to get something performing well.

However I just disagree with this. A couple months ago I bought an A&K M24 for ~130, put in an autobot 70 bucking, a ~500mm (or similar) maple leaf crazy jet barrel, an M150, and a little elbow grease (sealed everything up well, added a TDC, stuff like this) and I am shooting at ~2.92-2.94 joules with .32g (it's what my field chronos at).

The rifle came stock with all steel internals, including a 90 degree trigger, steel cylinder, aluminum piston and spring guide, and probably some other metal bits I'm forgetting that are important.

This rifle is consistent, really really accurate as in 9 out of 10 shots (.45g bb's) will hit my body sized tree target 92 meters away from my shooting spot as verified by a laser range finder (gotta be no wind otherwise it's hard as I think should be expected) and a tad bit heavy. However it is really solid with a very impressive build quality.

I'm also working on VSR-10 projects where I'm doing a taring carving stock and Wolverine Bolt M conversion, as well as an M700 HPA build because I like full bolt pulls. These rifles do seem to need lots of parts and money and care and they love to give me grief. As I'm getting the kinks worked out of these other projects, the A&K M24 just works. It's consistent +/- 5-10fps and reliable.

It also cost no more than 225USD. Not saying it's the best option, but it is very solid if you want performance on a budget.
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my overall question is whether a budget gun (with upgrades of course) can perform just as well as an upgraded VSR.
That M24 build will perform just as good as a full upgrade VSR. You'll just be limited to the kind of mods you can throw in.

For instance, the trigger is nice and perfectly durable, but it's not a S-trigger when it comes to feeling.
The hop chamber (with the recommended hop arm, bucking and barrel) will throw the heaviest bbs you can find at the same distance a top-of-the-shelf VSR would, but it's not as solid as Action Army's or positive-clicking as Maple Leaf's.
The mags will be harder to find and can be somewhat iffy.
And you won't find aftermarket external parts, such as stocks or outer barrels, which will limit the aesthetics to what it comes out of the box, forever.

That's the kind of limitations that this really low-budget build has. But when it comes to accuracy and range, it'll match a 5 times pricier VSR build any day.
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