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Old 01-31-2020, 08:25 AM   #76
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Well, looks like he launched the SSG10 (lol love the originality).

Completely VSR10 compatible. Some kind of warranty for 25 years...

Honestly looks to be a solid rifle for a beginner looking to get into the sport. Only thing I'd probably recommend changing is the hop up to an AA chamber as it looks like he copied the original VSR10 chamber which we all know has some issues.

After that you're ready to rock for just over $350. Not bad for beginners wanting to do a budget build.
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Old 01-31-2020, 08:29 AM   #77
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Agreed, though the chamber may not even be a problem with an arm change (which he obviously did,) pains me to say this, but this is undoubtably the best upgrade platform on the market now. Easily the least expensive, and all future upgrades are mostly subjective, with maybe the exception of the barrel and an mr hop (?). Too bad this wasn't a thing when I got into the sport, coulda saved a whole lot of money...
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Old 01-31-2020, 08:41 AM   #78
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299 Euros (3000HKD) is a damning good price if it does have strong quality. I definitely spent more than that in my VSR and it's still a bit amiss here and there.
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Old 01-31-2020, 09:01 AM   #79
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I'd say it's good enough quality if he's offering that warranty.

We all are aware of the regular VSR stock feeling cheap but taking a beating. I doubt he'll have many issues with the platform considering the extensive aftermarket.

I mean you could do a full upgrade build with a weighted piston, new barrel, rubber, nub, and chamber... gonna come out well under most anything else out there. That said, his piston is airbrake compatible and looks to have space to add lead tape or solder so... even more could be saved.

Only thing I don't like about this is how easy and ubiquitous it'll be for people to match the range on my old upgraded TM VSR without doing any tuning on their part, lol. Well played chinese copy con man. Well played.
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Old 01-31-2020, 09:47 AM   #80
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Looks like it has a zero trigger as well.

That, perfect air seal, shipping with a good bucking, likely better feeling outer barrel, and a gun case for 300US is a pretty good price...


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Old 01-31-2020, 10:02 AM   #81
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My biggest fear right now is that because he just effectively lowered the high performance threshhold by $200, the sniper role is gonna be wayy more popular. Get ready for 20 snipers a game now
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Old 01-31-2020, 10:05 AM   #82
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I hate to say it, but this gun does look like a very good value. For a long time, I have sworn to never get a Novritsch rifle. I just can't stand paying for a gun that is marketed by him. But man, when the price is $300, I haven't bought my BASR yet.... This is hard. At least he gave credit to the ML for the stock and bucking. I am curious who manufactured the other parts though, like the cylinder, outer barrel, inner barrel, etc. He's able to cut costs since, unlike us, he doesn't need to buy the base gun as an upgrade, only the parts. It will be interesting to see the diehard SSG 24 fans react to the gun when they swore that it was way better than the VSR lol. I decided to watch the video through, and I chuckled inside a but when he talked about the "CNC'd hopup chamber," and then showed what looked like a stock chamber 🙂. It will be interesting to see what people think when they officially buy the rifle. Me gives credit to ML, but I'm curious if they're just clone parts. Novi pretty much just tossed aside the "state of the art, set the standard" SSG24 though. That is obvious in the video.
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My biggest fear right now is that because he just effectively lowered the high performance threshhold by $200, the sniper role is gonna be wayy more popular. Get ready for 20 snipers a game now
Lol fields are going to need to raise fps limits on AEG's just to keep the incentive higher (or lower sniper limits). It just pains me that someone can skip the time building a rifle just to buy it. It feels..... Wrong. You are bypassing the right of passage of a sniper. Here's a link to the video for newcomers.

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Old 01-31-2020, 10:17 AM   #84
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FMP, agreed. These days, it's easy to build a decent rifle like legos, but now they're selling the whole lego kit af 25% less than disassembled. Obviously, there are a few things one could do to improve the rifle, like a weighted piston, tdc, aa chamber and panthera nub, but none of that is truly neccesary. In reality, it's not a perfect build, still somewhat budget, but, oh what a great platform to start with and add on to over time...

If I was you, and I hadn't built my BASR yet, I'd wait a bit for reviews, and def. go with his rifle if there are no fundamental, glaring issues.

I have good news though! Now it's just on us to outskill the newcomers. In the right hands, even the worst rifle can be used to do monstrous damage.
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Old 01-31-2020, 10:21 AM   #85
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FMP, agreed. These days, it's easy to build a decent rifle like legos, but now they're selling the whole lego kit af 25% less than disassembled. Obviously, there are a few things one could do to improve the rifle, like a weighted piston, tdc, aa chamber and panthera nub, but none of that is truly neccesary. In reality, it's not a perfect build, still somewhat budget, but, oh what a great platform to start with and add on to over time...

If I was you, and I hadn't built my BASR yet, I'd wait a bit for reviews, and def. go with his rifle if there are no fundamental, glaring issues.

I have good news though! Now it's just on us to outskill the newcomers. In the right hands, even the worst rifle can be used to do monstrous damage.
Time to get an a&k m24 and outbudget the new value gun!
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Old 01-31-2020, 10:40 AM   #86
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For a long time everyone mentioned how rifles out of the box were never THAT good. They always needed little or extensive upgrades. People wanted durability, accuracy, 90 triggers, light weight...and much more for an affordable price. Well I mean that’s pretty much exactly what he did. Now you will never find a rifle with performance similar to the new platform for a better price. BUT there will still be complaints.

Now it’s either buy his gun that is good out of the box or build one because you enjoy it and like to tinker with things. Which includes squeezing every last bit of performance out of your BB gun. I mean the ssg10 is as much as a Marui g spec lol. Which do you think is better lmaooooooo. I don’t see a reason to dis unless you love r hop and wish the ssg10 came r hopped. At that point you could say the patch wasn’t installed correctly.
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Old 01-31-2020, 10:44 AM   #87
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The A&K M24s are damm good, I have bought several to sell on and then did a hop up arm upgrade, bucking and polished the barrel, debridged as well, they shoot almost as good as my VSR but as a lefty the vsr is better as there are left handed receivers etc available
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Old 01-31-2020, 10:51 AM   #88
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I applaud it. It looks like a really solid product and will almost certainly be the go-to recommendation for people looking for an out of the box bolt gun. While I won't comment about his excessive cloning and what not, honestly, how long have we been looking at maple leaf to do a complete VSR-10 with their laundry list of VSR upgrade parts? It still hasn't happened to this day. Nov's actually done the community a solid by putting together what we've advocated for for years.

Well... That is assuming his quality control is significantly better than what ever QC is being used on that SSX23 of his...
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The A&K M24s are damm good, I have bought several to sell on and then did a hop up arm upgrade, bucking and polished the barrel, debridged as well, they shoot almost as good as my VSR but as a lefty the vsr is better as there are left handed receivers etc available
The only thing that would 100% sell me on the a&k m24 is a real spec stock. The a&k stock and ejection port just look iinda toyish. Maybe I'll still go that route
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Old 01-31-2020, 11:08 AM   #90
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The rifle is pretty much most likely having Maple Leaf as OEM. Crowned brass inner barrel -> Crazy Jet but in 6.01mm and a 60 degree Autobot (shame it's not MR hop) tho those steel rings scream bad idea.
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