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Old 02-05-2020, 10:49 PM   #1
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An Airsoft Community Under Attack

I don't know if this is the right place to put this but if it is not please let me know so I can put it in the right place.

I recently got an email and am now trying to get the word out. I have included a blog post of what is happening below. Basically Pennsylvania is trying to pass a new law on airsoft guns. It would ruin the fun of getting one that looks like the real thing and would also greatly impact smaller airsoft businesses. The link below will give more information then I can give here so please go check it out.
For those of you who are in the US, even though it might be in a different state then the one you are in if the law isn't stopped then other states might pass it. Please help spread the word.

Here is the link.
https://www.foxairsoft.com/blog/penn...k-fox-airsoft/

Again if I have put this in the wrong area I am sorry, I didn't know where else to put this. Otherwise have a great day everyone.
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Old 02-06-2020, 12:35 AM   #2
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In New Zealand here we have been very lucky to keep our sport. There have been a number of times where anti gun people have tried to get the sport shut down Especially in this last year. Luckily we have a national group call Airsoft New Zealand who have done well to protect and keep the sport in NZ. Good on you guys. You rock. Keep up the good work
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Old 02-06-2020, 01:19 AM   #3
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Quite laughable really. If the US didn't have such slack real steel laws then there wouldn't be such a fuss about marking an imitation firearms from the real thing.

So toy owners (sorry guys) have to jump through a load of hoops where as anyone who wants real steel only needs to be over 21? (Source)

Stopping a law that affects Airsoft should not be the concentration here. The ONLY defence I can see to wanting to own a gun is to protect your property which can be done with CCTV, fences, dogs, melee and non lethal weapons.
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Stopping a law that affects Airsoft should not be the concentration here. The ONLY defence I can see to wanting to own a gun is to protect your property which can be done with CCTV, fences, dogs, melee and non lethal weapons.
Sorry Steve, but you got that one wrong. The reason Americans can own (and bear) arms is to combat a tyrannical government. Our gov't literally gave us a safe pass to keep the gov't in check. You're also looking over hunters and sportshooters as well.
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The ONLY defence I can see to wanting to own a gun is to protect your property which can be done with CCTV, fences, dogs, melee and non lethal weapons.
I'm an avid hunter, a sport that I enjoy, and the reward of my hunting efforts provides my family with the healthiest meat possible.

Also, as a farmer, I tend a great number of what I jokingly call my "prey animals". There is, however, a nugget of truth to that. I cannot protect my livelihood with just CCTV, fences, dogs, melee and non lethal weapons.
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Old 02-06-2020, 07:17 AM   #6
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The ONLY defence I can see to wanting to own a gun is to protect your property which can be done with CCTV, fences, dogs, melee and non lethal weapons.
Also, as a farmer, I tend a great number of what I jokingly call my "prey animals". There is, however, a nugget of truth to that. I cannot protect my livelihood with just CCTV, fences, dogs, melee and non lethal weapons.
True true. We have stories of people who have defended the livelihood of OTHERS with their guns. Concealed carry is one factor, but yeah, we have a story of a guy who literally grabbed his AR and ran after a guy who was shooting up a church. I don't want to get too off topic here, but ultimately, the guns are not the issue. If it was, there would have been more mass shootings in early America as well (believe it or not, the first machine gun was invented before the Constitution if I'm correct). Sorry for the tangeant, let's get back to considering airsoft. Airsoft, like real firearms, are not innately dangerous. In the hands of the wrong person, they can be. The difference is, with airsoft guns, the ignorant user causes a danger to HIMSELF by appearing dangerous in the public eye. What have I done? I've told neighbors about my use of airsoft guns (wouldn't hurt to tell a few more), since my yard is rather open. I haven't gotten in trouble, and I've been doing this for a year. I also keep my orange cap exposed when I'm shooting it in my yard. Excercise common sense and put your noggin in gear, and you should realize that airsoft guns ARE going to appear dangerous to the general public. If you are cautious and follow local laws, you are FINE. Heck, my yard, albeit decent sized, is STILL probably a poor place to be firing my airsoft gun. As I said, it's relatively exposed to public eye. So again, excercise common sense and follow local laws, and you'll be aight (as the hip kids say).
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Free people do not ask for permission. Whether it's to own a toy, or a gun.

Those of you outside the US would do well not to buy into our (and your) fear mongering and propaganda style media.

This isn't the wild west. There are not gun battles everyday. The safest places to live in the US are the places that welcome firearms and respect the 2nd amendment and the least safe places to live (i.e. Chicago, New York, Baltimore) have extremely strict gun laws. That's not a coincidence.
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Old 02-06-2020, 09:11 AM   #8
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It is funny that Chicago, New York, and Baltimore have the strictest gun laws but it is also where a lot of crimes happen. I guess not that funny but it is just interesting to say the least.
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An open border with Mexico will do that. Also Houston is a Liberal run city.
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Old 02-06-2020, 10:26 AM   #10
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I’m from pa and idk how true that is. Seems pretty legit since my local field in conestoga (Ambush) and a Pittsburgh business (amped airsoft) have shared it. BUT time will tell. It would really suck for airsoft to be shutdown like that. Luckily though, worst case, there are decent fields in neighboring states like Maryland.
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I knew I'd trigger a few with my comments on US gun laws but it shows how polarising the issue is.
I can only speak from my UK perspective however the "worst" implication of marking a RIF from RS is that if you aren't a member of a site you have to buy one which is 51% a bright colour (which isn't as bad as it sounds).
No orange tips or high vis marking otherwise though, black on black is fine.
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Hell those brightly coloured airsoft guns actually looked pretty damn good, those guys who painted them have some good taste
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I knew I'd trigger a few with my comments on US gun laws but it shows how polarising the issue is.
I can only speak from my UK perspective however the "worst" implication of marking a RIF from RS is that if you aren't a member of a site you have to buy one which is 51% a bright colour (which isn't as bad as it sounds).
No orange tips or high vis marking otherwise though, black on black is fine.
You're good. Media sometimes makes it into a bigger issue than it really is. We do face a good number of gun deaths. Ironically, our own people are calling for "assault weapons" bans, despite rifles in general only accounting for about ~300 deaths a year-- which sounds like a lot, but in comparison to other things, like medical malpractice, etc, it's quite small. Handguns happen to be a whole different issue. However, people don't wanna ban those. Uneducated citizens will be the downfall of America.
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Evil is evil. Take away the guns, they use knives. Ban those (lol sorry, banning knives cracks me up) then they move to using vehicles, etc. I think those of you in the UK are well aware of this. Evil will always find a way. Better to be able to protect yourself and your family than be at the whim of a single lunatic, or a tyrannical government.

I own and use RS and airsoft. Airsoft is a toy to me. Seeing that states like New Jersey, and now Pennsylvania are banning toys that look like guns is just the radical Left trying to get any foothold they can politically so that their ultimate goal of banning all firearms can be met. Unfortunately for them that will never happen in the US. See what's happening in Virginia for a sneak peak.

I mean I've even seen articles about these crazies wanting to ban neon colored NERF guns, because they're... not a fluffy teddy bear? Idk anymore.

Oh well, I'm off to a gun show to get some hi capacity magazines and bulk buy some ammo. Just because I can.
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Old 02-12-2020, 08:09 PM   #15
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https://www.kitv.com/story/41659894/...riminals-hands
Here in Hawaii there are politicians doing the typical response-to-tragedy push for more unnecessary bills, including one requiring permits just to be able to purchase ammunition.


https://www.kitv.com/story/41659894/...riminals-hands
Thankfully our rep Sean Quinlan is pushing for expanding Stand Your Ground law here. I personally am not familiar with the law as is now but the article says you have to be inside your home (not just on your own property) before it is legal to defend yourself with lethal force.
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