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Old 03-08-2020, 03:50 PM   #1
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Ssg10 A1

I’m planning on buying a sniper and I really like the hop up unit on the ssg10 and how it can changed from the outside, has anyone tried out this gun? Is it worth it and does it preform well compared to a upgraded vsr10?
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Old 03-08-2020, 06:50 PM   #2
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I’m planning on buying a sniper and I really like the hop up unit on the ssg10 and how it can changed from the outside, has anyone tried out this gun? Is it worth it and does it preform well compared to a upgraded vsr10?
The hop up chamber design (or about most rifles with a slider adjustment System) is literally that of a normal VSR, but with a better material choice such that it does not flex. Nothing really special about it.

So far there are QC issues here and there (easily scratched inner barrel, dirty parts OOTB, scratchy bolt pull, etc). Generally accuracy wise it is significantly better than a WELL despite the problems.
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- Hop-up bucking: Maple Leaf MR. HOP 60 Degrees
- Spring: Custom
- Cylinder: Edgi Nemo cylinder kit
- Chamber: Action Army blue chamber
- Spring Guide: Edgi Nemo cylinder kit
- Piston: Edgi Nemo cylinder kit
- Scope: Discovery 3-12*42

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Old 03-08-2020, 09:40 PM   #3
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Based on the ssg10 issues, and the incompatibilities with the vsr-10 system, I would just build my own:

Jg bar-10 vsr, $85
panthera arm and nub, $25
aa barrel, $40
Mr-hop, $10
Asp trigger spring piston guide, $110
Asp nozzle $35
Laylax Spring $20
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$325 for a rifle better than the ssg10, no worry about novy QC, no need to upgrade, no need to worry about being off-spec vsr (so you can get a wasp/sap in the future.) The Asp nozzle is awesome, and you can get any barrel you want, depending on how the budget. Same goes for chamber, you can just get a ml or aa chamber if you wish, for like $25 more.

The whole warranty thing is bullshit. If you have a rifle that is shooting sub 4j, your parts, assuming they are high quality, will never break. The only thing that I have ever had go on me is scope. Everything else frankly, is too simple of a system to break.

Edit: the laylax spring is crucial. The ASP spring may destroy your cylinder
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Old 03-09-2020, 07:03 AM   #4
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Based on the ssg10 issues, and the incompatibilities with the vsr-10 system, I would just build my own:

Jg bar-10 vsr, $85
panthera arm and nub, $25
aa barrel, $40
Mr-hop, $10
Asp trigger spring piston guide, $110
Asp nozzle $35
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$305 for a rifle better than the ssg10, no worry about novy QC, no need to upgrade, no need to worry about being off-spec vsr (so you can get a wasp/sap in the future.) The Asp nozzle is awesome, and you can get any barrel you want, depending on how the budget. Same goes for chamber, you can just get a ml or aa chamber if you wish, for like $25 more.

The whole warranty thing is bullshit. If you have a rifle that is shooting sub 4j, your parts, assuming they are high quality, will never break. The only thing that I have ever had go on me is scope. Everything else frankly, is too simple of a system to break.
It isn't fully VSR? What are the parts incompatible?
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Old 03-09-2020, 07:40 AM   #5
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Cylinder, possibly receiver, trigger.
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I think the cylinder is a tiny bit tighter than normal but I tried Edgi piston and it works. Receiver and trigger uses M4 screws instead of M3, which I consider as a plus.
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I read somewhere that the chamber area is also tighter, disallowing the use of an AA chamber without modification. The fact alone that you cannot just throw a WASP in is a killer for me.

I see no reason to not just do the build that I recommended. The only thing that is worse is the cylinder, which should be fine for your average build.
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Old 03-09-2020, 01:52 PM   #8
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Wasp isn't for your average build, the stock cylinder issue of the bar10 is worse, I remember it was one of the first things I switched out on my build, as the stock aluminium cylinder was scratch and got lose at all spots.
Hate Nov all you want but my opinion is the ssg10 is way easier to fix the issues yourself than the hassle of building it yourself. As if the JG quality control is any better. I just removed the edge on the spring guide stopper and the rest is fine. Not superb but definitely on pair with your average build.

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Old 03-09-2020, 02:10 PM   #9
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You can drop an AA chamber into the SSG10, AFAIK.

The cylinder issue isn't a big one either. The stock piston on the SSG has plenty of space to add weight to it and can use an airbrake. No point in buying a WASP for it. I'd also be surprised if a WASP wouldn't fit as it comes with 2 different sized guide rings - if you for some reason think I'm wrong about the stock piston.

The trigger? It's a bulltrigger. It'll never need replacing and if it does it's under warranty.
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Based on the ssg10 issues, and the incompatibilities with the vsr-10 system, I would just build my own:

Jg bar-10 vsr, $85
panthera arm and nub, $25
aa barrel, $40
Mr-hop, $10
Asp trigger spring piston guide, $110
Asp nozzle $35
Laylax Spring $20
+------------------
$325 for a rifle better than the ssg10, no worry about novy QC, no need to upgrade, no need to worry about being off-spec vsr (so you can get a wasp/sap in the future.) The Asp nozzle is awesome, and you can get any barrel you want, depending on how the budget. Same goes for chamber, you can just get a ml or aa chamber if you wish, for like $25 more.

The whole warranty thing is bullshit. If you have a rifle that is shooting sub 4j, your parts, assuming they are high quality, will never break. The only thing that I have ever had go on me is scope. Everything else frankly, is too simple of a system to break.

Edit: the laylax spring is crucial. The ASP spring may destroy your cylinder
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