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Old 11-20-2020, 10:34 PM   #1
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Hey guys, I've been in need of a new bucking, and I can't really decide what to get, I need your advice.

Currently I am looking at an Autobot 60° or a Decepticon 60°.
Both are the 2021 or clear silicone model, as they seem good.
My question is, does ANYONE here have experience with BOTH of them?
I don't feel like wasting extra money these days, but I'm sure that someone else has for me lol.

Also considering the MR-hop in 60°, I am quite interested in them too.
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Old 11-21-2020, 01:51 AM   #2
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I want to try the new rubbers too.
MR-Hop works but it's reported to not seal properly (mine seems to be sealing just fine tho).
Regardless, the leak is consistent, so is the J output.
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Old 11-21-2020, 07:28 AM   #3
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My MR hop seals as well with an EdGi cylinder head. Although I want to put more shots through it before I decide how I feel about it.
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Old 11-21-2020, 07:49 AM   #4
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I have heard that the autobot is better than the decepticon.
Maple leaf also states that the decepticon has better accuracy and shorter range whereas the autobot has better range and worse accuracy.
So far I have only used the autobot though.

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Old 11-21-2020, 08:23 AM   #5
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Tried both extensively, getting exactly the same (awesome) accuracy and range with either. The only difference I could find is the Autobot requiring less pressure to lift a given bb weight. As a reference, in my WE AK the Autobot could lift .40s with a third of the hop adjustment wheel to spare, while the Decepticon required it to be maxed out.
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Old 11-21-2020, 08:26 AM   #6
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This is what maple leaf has to say about them.

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Old 11-21-2020, 10:22 AM   #7
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If you use heavy bbs (>0,32g) any bucking that can lift it properly looks accurate;
The nub/patch/whatever shape that the maple leaf has are just marketing BS. For AEG looks for the one offering biggest patch area so less pressure is needed, for bolt action doesn't matter much unless you're after specific properties like JC.
If the material on the new ML bucking are what I hope is, then the MR bucking for AEG would save me time on making r-hop for rifles I don't have time to tune.
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Old 11-21-2020, 01:00 PM   #8
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I do have small exp with Autobot (installed in a SSG24) and big exp with MR-Hop 70' (installed in my VSR for 1+ year). No exp with Decepticon.
In SSG24 i needed to apply a little more HopUp pressure.
Both are very good, both can lift heavy bbs & shooting great with both of them.
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Old 11-21-2020, 03:26 PM   #9
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I do have small exp with Autobot (installed in a SSG24) and big exp with MR-Hop 70' (installed in my VSR for 1+ year). No exp with Decepticon.
In SSG24 i needed to apply a little more HopUp pressure.
Both are very good, both can lift heavy bbs & shooting great with both of them.
How do you manage to install a VSR bucking into the SSG24? As far as I'm concerned the nozzle would not be large enough to plug into the bucking
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Old 11-22-2020, 03:54 AM   #10
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I think I just made a break-through lol, I know why the Autobot can hop a BB with less pressure in comparison to a Decepticon or and other bucking(excluding Modify X-range and maybe another)
I find it hard to explain why, but this video explains quite well.
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Old 11-22-2020, 09:16 AM   #11
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Another option would be to try the airsoft sniper mechanic flamingo bucking.
I have head that the performance is comparable to a maple leaf autobot but with worse air seal.
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Old 11-22-2020, 05:01 PM   #12
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New mr hop is in 2021 rubber that requires no warm up
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Old 11-22-2020, 07:08 PM   #13
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Where did you find the new MR-hop?
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Old 11-22-2020, 08:36 PM   #14
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I use 60 degree Autobot and Decepticon buckings interchangeably, just depends what I grab from the bag first. I prefer them over the MR hop bucking just because they provide a stiffer return for the hop arm (this only matters if you remove the spring return on chambers that use it). Plus, with the right nozzle and rifle construction, you can make any bucking seal perfectly.
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