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Old 10-26-2016, 05:08 AM   #1
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Crazy Jet inner barrel

Another "design" from maple leaf. Anyone try this yet ?
Maple Leaf 6.02 Crazy Jet Inner Barrel for VSR-10 / FN-SPR ( 428mm ) / MLTW-IB-CJV428 | WGC Shop - Airsoft Supplier


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Old 10-26-2016, 06:31 AM   #2
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so its ported more or less. i wouldn't think it would be good for the bb to touch the seem wear the two metals are attached.
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Old 10-26-2016, 06:56 AM   #3
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This barrel tip makes the air that pushs the bb to form a cushion of air around it, to try to neutralize the effect of cross wind at the beggining of the bb flight course. There is a video of it in the AST youtube channel.
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Old 10-26-2016, 04:00 PM   #4
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Lol I'm sorry but the air form your cylinder will not be enough to neutralize a cross wind. Besides, a BB has the most energy when it exits the barrel so this idea is kind of useless.

It's a half decent marketing gimmick for unseasoned snipers tho.

I'll be sticking to my EdGI bull barrel
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Old 10-26-2016, 08:41 PM   #5
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They work extremely well. And I mean, extremelywell. in my experience, they worked better than any other pistol barrel, including the PDI 6.01, in my G17 and Makarov,

But not because of that "invisible prolonged inner barrel" mumbo jumbo,that's weird marketing tactic. The real trick behind it is a pressure relief design that prevents turbulence in front of the bb, which works wonders for accuracy.

Also they are purposely built to pair with their autobot / decepticon buckings, which as you all know by now, are pretty much the best buckings around, specially in anything GBB (pistols or rilfes) as they really grab onto the nozzle preventing premature disengagement, and therefore providing great consistency, increased recoil, outstanding accuracy and range, quite a bit of extra power.. and energy creep lol. So be advised, check the FPS if you decide to run such setup.

I recommend 100% the Crazy Jet barrels for any pistol without any doubt.

The longer, rifle-length barrels are a pretty new release so I haven't got the chance to try them yet, and probably won't be able to do it for some time as we are extremely satisfied with their "normal" 6.02mm inner barrels we are running in all our guns in our team anyway. But as soon as a new gun come in, I'll give them a try. The only concern I have about them is how (if) they'll be affected by different muzzle devices altering the intended gas release direction.
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Old 10-27-2016, 04:52 AM   #6
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Lol I'm sorry but the air form your cylinder will not be enough to neutralize a cross wind. Besides, a BB has the most energy when it exits the barrel so this idea is kind of useless.

It's a half decent marketing gimmick for unseasoned snipers tho.

I'll be sticking to my EdGI bull barrel
Of courser it wont neutralize the crosswind, it TRY to neutralize at the beginning of the BB flight course by causing an air pressure cushion.

When you say that the BB has the most energy when exiting the barrel, the important thing is to PREVENT that energy to be lost when it faces different air pressure from the barrel to the air. If you create an air pressure cushion, you will lose less BB energy when the BB exits the barrel.

Thats is the thinking. And I didnt said that it was better than EDGI´s.
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Old 10-27-2016, 06:27 AM   #7
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Of courser it wont neutralize the crosswind, it TRY to neutralize at the beginning of the BB flight course by causing an air pressure cushion.

When you say that the BB has the most energy when exiting the barrel, the important thing is to PREVENT that energy to be lost when it faces different air pressure from the barrel to the air. If you create an air pressure cushion, you will lose less BB energy when the BB exits the barrel.

Thats is the thinking. And I didnt said that it was better than EDGI´s.
No.

Please stop injecting their gimmicks into physics.

Why are so many people desperate to believe these sort of gimmicked up barrels?
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Old 10-27-2016, 07:03 AM   #8
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No.

Please stop injecting their gimmicks into physics.

Why are so many people desperate to believe these sort of gimmicked up barrels?
What do you understand by "That´s the thinking" ?
Jesus, i´m not saying it works, just explaining what the manufacturer says about the barrel.
Cant you guys see that? Or my english really sucks ?
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Why are so many people desperate to believe these sort of gimmicked up barrels?
There's nothing gimmicky about it. It's just a more advanced version of crowning, to prevent turbulence in front of the bb. And it works.
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basicly I use the "overvolumed" gun combine with this and I will have better range and accuracy, right ?
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basicly I use the "overvolumed" gun combine with this and I will have better range and accuracy, right ?
Range, no. Accuracy, yes.

As I understand it it works similar to a ported EdGI barrel. I'm not too convinced about the accuracy advantage myself though but the physics check out.

Maybe it works well in pistol barrels like Dimitri describes because such a short barrel doesn't leave much time for the bb to stabilize. A stable exit from the barrel is a real benefit there
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There's nothing gimmicky about it. It's just a more advanced version of crowning, to prevent turbulence in front of the bb. And it works.
As we all know, possibly the most important part of the barrel is that it provides a stable consistent place for the bb to accelerate as it rolls/spins on the top.

So how do you think a changing surface like this affects the bb?
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yeah, I will try only on pistol. With 53$, got hephaestus or Prometheus is much safer xD.
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as it rolls/spins on the top.
That claim is highly disputed. Far from a "as we all know".

But I don't want to bring that discussion once more. All I know is that, for me, the Crazy Jet proved to be great for pistols.
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As we all know, possibly the most important part of the barrel is that it provides a stable consistent place for the bb to accelerate as it rolls/spins on the top.

So how do you think a changing surface like this affects the bb?
I can understand the theory behind it and it does check out. The point where the pressure behind the bb drops to atmospheric pressure is now earlier so the bb is still inside the barrel and when it exits the barrel there is no sudden pressure drop, which means smoother transition.

I'm not convinced it has a huge influence in longer barrels (200mm is long in this context) but on pistols, yeah, I can imagine the influence

It'll also be quieter :)
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