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Old 03-28-2020, 12:09 PM   #16
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I heard the SSG10 is getting a tonne of complaints and problems from someone at the last game I went to. Anyone elaborate on/confirm this?
People were complaining usually about
- tons of after-purchase issues such as unsmooth bolts, scratched inner barrels, cylinder scratching into pars leaving messy metallic flakes, etc.
- the fact that while it's advertised as completely VSR-10 compatible during promotion, it is in fact not completely compatible with a unique receiver and cylinder/trigger assembly.
- awful QC in general.

As for the SSR15, somebody here mentioned about Novyboi should make something like an AUG instead of the M4 platform, and while that is a pretty sweet idea it's heartbreaking to say the AUG is simply awful by design and you'd probably have to redesign the whole thing to make it work better. It's insanely back-heavy (no idea if the real steel version is as bad, but the A2 AEG version is simply bad in balance), trigger is super mushy and has a less-than-ideal hop up chamber.
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Old 03-28-2020, 04:59 PM   #17
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People were complaining usually about

- tons of after-purchase issues such as unsmooth bolts, scratched inner barrels, cylinder scratching into pars leaving messy metallic flakes, etc.

- the fact that while it's advertised as completely VSR-10 compatible during promotion, it is in fact not completely compatible with a unique receiver and cylinder/trigger assembly.

- awful QC in general.



As for the SSR15, somebody here mentioned about Novyboi should make something like an AUG instead of the M4 platform, and while that is a pretty sweet idea it's heartbreaking to say the AUG is simply awful by design and you'd probably have to redesign the whole thing to make it work better. It's insanely back-heavy (no idea if the real steel version is as bad, but the A2 AEG version is simply bad in balance), trigger is super mushy and has a less-than-ideal hop up chamber.
That was me. Everyone thought he was going to make an aug because of his penchant for Austrian army equipment and the fact that he owned a jing gong one.
Personally I wouldn't mind if he reworked the AUG incorporating some elements of the SA80 from g&g.
I suppose the ar15 is an easier platform given that there are already numerous companies which make preupgraded ar15s.

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Old 03-28-2020, 11:23 PM   #18
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. . . I suppose the ar15 is an easier platform given that there are already numerous companies which make preupgraded ar15s.

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The question is, what's going to be his selling point?

Many companies do sell pre-upgraded M4's. The M4 is the most widely used platform in airsoft, with hundreds of different variants. I don't see how this is going to sell very well. If it's just an upgraded gearbox+mosfet and TBB with a full metal body, how is that different than most $350 AEG's on the market right now? What's going to be his bottom line that gets people to pick one of these up?
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Old 03-29-2020, 02:08 AM   #19
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. . . I suppose the ar15 is an easier platform given that there are already numerous companies which make preupgraded ar15s.

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The question is, what's going to be his selling point?

Many companies do sell pre-upgraded M4's. The M4 is the most widely used platform in airsoft, with hundreds of different variants. I don't see how this is going to sell very well. If it's just an upgraded gearbox+mosfet and TBB with a full metal body, how is that different than most $350 AEG's on the market right now? What's going to be his bottom line that gets people to pick one of these up?
That Novritsch SSR15 mark on the rifle you can use to flex on people.
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Old 03-29-2020, 09:40 AM   #20
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Yeah, I would guess that now that he's built a reputation for making quality (or at least good-performing rifles), most people will think that this will be the next Krytac, "the only rifle you'll ever need", because that's how his other rifles have been marketed up until this point.
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Old 03-30-2020, 08:53 AM   #21
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A Russian youtube channel called red army airsoft made an hpa assault rifle (yes, assault rifle, not dmr- it shot 350 fps) that shot up to 90metres accurately. Basically, what they did was completely custom build it from ground up. I believe they used a proteus mk2 hpa engine as well as testing 11 prowin hopup units for the best one and an orga 6.23 barrel with a maple leaf bucking.
The only reason I can see that anyone would buy his gun apart from the SSR15 mark is this^^^.
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Old 03-30-2020, 09:31 AM   #22
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But his rifle would have been joules creeping massively to get 90 meters
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Old 03-30-2020, 10:42 AM   #23
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I believe that he measured the joules to be that of a normal aeg (in russia). 1.5 joules that is with a .3 and 101 m/s. Slightly higher than in the UK for example where t is 1.2.
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Old 03-30-2020, 11:26 AM   #24
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I believe that he measured the joules to be that of a normal aeg (in russia). 1.5 joules that is with a .3 and 101 m/s. Slightly higher than in the UK for example where t is 1.2.
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Ok, so a .3 at 330-ish fps. I can almost believe that. If everything is on point, we'll call it 'plausible'. I mean really on point.

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Old 03-30-2020, 12:38 PM   #25
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I can almost believe that.
I don't believe it. He would be getting 90 airsoft meters. So probably about 75-80 meters max (with a lot of over hold). It is only 1.5 joules.
At 3.3 joules with 0.48gm we even struggle at 90 meters. We have to a lot of over hold and a fair bit of luck.
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I don't believe it. He would be getting 90 airsoft meters. So probably about 75-80 meters max (with a lot of over hold). It is only 1.5 joules.
At 3.3 joules with 0.48gm we even struggle at 90 meters. We have to a lot of over hold and a fair bit of luck.
I was trying to be gentle.. Ok, now that you said it, I'm in..
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The only reason I point out something when I do not believe it to be true is so that new people do not think that they can make a low joule rifle shoot extra far. This can make new snipers waist a lot of time and money. This forum is about reality and not someone's exaggerated range.
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Look. All I am saying and my point originated from this is that Novritsch is going to have to do something amazing to attract sensible people to his aeg (I.e. those who won't just buy for the brand).
Frankly, I wouldn't be too surprised if an aeg could reach 75 metres. However, I personally do not trust the 90 metres figure. Or I don't believe that they hit it from their first try and probably aimed up at about 20 degrees.

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It will depend on the price point.

If he's going for a Basic AEG that gets him in the market all he has to do is make it on par with a standard CM16. It'll likely have an ML bucking and some sort of CNC hop chamber that will probably be a prowin/maxxx clone. And be "lipo ready," whatever that means. Guaranteed quick change spring, he says often the he hates having to pull things apart to change power levels. It won't have to have crazy range to win people over. Just consistent grouping.

I've noticed in NZ the main bulk of airsofters who are buying his gear are not tech-heads. They seem to usually be people who bought an airsoft gun, it broke and the customer service sucked in getting it fixed. So they went to Novi, honestly if he can make a reputable airsoft brand that is customer forced that's a win for airsoft as a whole.

If he goes more expensive. It'll have a more advanced Fet, 16 AWG wires and a decent motor. Trigger response sells.

As for the 90m shot at 1.5j on 0.3g. Thats almost exactly what I game with for my assault class. I'm calling only just plausible, but honestly, 70m is pushing it further then I'd believe. I wonder what any of my AEGs would do if I had an indoor testing range? It's spiked my curiosity that's for sure.
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As for the 90m shot at 1.5j on 0.3g. Thats almost exactly what I game with for my assault class.
What do you mean by this???
Your guns on average shoot about 70 meter?
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