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Old 09-15-2020, 06:04 PM   #91
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Lol, it's just Chris. He makes his product so desirable but I feel like there might be a chance that they aren't bad but in fact it's just way over hyped by him and fans. Of course it's a toy gun and it can't be perfect but that's what his guns make it seem like. But there still might be hope for the SSP18 since Joseph had 100% design choices over this gun. It's literally Joseph's gun and not Chris'.
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Old 09-15-2020, 11:13 PM   #92
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It's kind of a hard pill to swallow, but from what I gather from serious Hi-Capa guys, GBB sucks and isn't very reliable or durable.
Now, I'm not saying it's impossible to have a reliable GBB, but it will take lots and lots of money and time, and even then these guys still have issues.

I made the mistake of thinking a pistol would be awesome, and I sorely regret getting that pistol.
Up until now I thought that I had a bad pistol, but apparently it was really good compared to most and it just wasn't good enough to handle 10-15K rounds like I thought it would be.
A pretty serious letdown, but whatever, I'll just focus on HPA guns and be happy with that.
But yeah, you won't get reliability and durability like a real MK23, Glock, P17, or any other handgun or other real steel rifle, except for very select cases.
It's simple really, airsoft is mainly shitty pot metal, low grade aluminum, or plastic, and you simply can't expect much life from that compared to hardened and tempered steel and properly coated aluminum.
Sadly, I don't ever see pistols or any airsoft gun being as good as the real thing, so I'll just have to go and find a corner to cry in.
All jokes and negativity aside, do whatever works for you, and don't be too wishful when thinking about buying something as it's probably not nearly as good as it's said to be.
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Old 09-15-2020, 11:26 PM   #93
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The problem with GBB is that gases are a bitch to begin with. They cool down as they expand, and unlike bullets that cool down affects the gas resivoir in your mag and reduces power noticeably for your follow up shots. That is not something you can solve even with real steel materials for your whole goddamn GBBP/GBBR anyway. (And frankly, "shitty" pot metal given a good enough alloy content is more than enough to handle airsoft and gas blowbacks, unless you want to intentionally run it into an 8-ton truck then may God bless your soul)

If you demand performance for pistols at the expense of realism, other than HPA tapping you probably should consider AEPs but they shoot super cold in comparison.
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Old 09-15-2020, 11:44 PM   #94
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The problem with GBB is that gases are a bitch to begin with. They cool down as they expand, and unlike bullets that cool down affects the gas resivoir in your mag and reduces power noticeably for your follow up shots. That is not something you can solve even with real steel materials for your whole goddamn GBBP/GBBR anyway. (And frankly, "shitty" pot metal given a good enough alloy content is more than enough to handle airsoft and gas blowbacks, unless you want to intentionally run it into an 8-ton truck then may God bless your soul)

If you demand performance for pistols at the expense of realism, other than HPA tapping you probably should consider AEPs but they shoot super cold in comparison.
True, but there's not really a way around that.
I agree that our expectations aren't feasible, but we can always hope that things improve.
As for HPA tapping a pistol, it's not a pistol anymore, it's a bad SMG and not a sidearm, so why not just go a step ahead and get a Scorpion EVO or something like that instead.

I suppose we are all getting carried away with expectations, but that is arguably a part of this pass time and likely always will be.
Too philosophical, time to spray some BBs at an aluminum can now.......
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Old 09-16-2020, 12:11 AM   #95
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Yea, i think Nov might have out done himself by making his gun's expectations too high. Now time to try to hit a bottle a hundred meters with 2.5J and a .20g bb or split an atom, at 420 feet, with 1J, in the dark, and handcuffs, with a widebore, and a 25mm ER-hop :D
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Old 09-16-2020, 06:51 AM   #96
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I don't like the ssx23, but I don't like the tm mk23 neither, I just don't like nbb trigger. The ssg10 I really don't think it's that bad. It's 300 euros, the AA VSR10 that is almost 300 with internals that need to be fully replaced and it was still well received. Too much salt no?
For the price of the ssg10, I don't mind open it up, give it a clean and check for assembly errors, guaranteed better than any other option for 300 euros.
As for the G18, I'm happy it has non drop barrel and on spec picatinny.
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Old 09-16-2020, 07:15 AM   #97
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The ssg10 I really don't think it's that bad. It's 300 euros, the AA VSR10 that is almost 300 with internals that need to be fully replaced and it was still well received. Too much salt no?
For the price of the ssg10, I don't mind open it up, give it a clean and check for assembly errors, guaranteed better than any other option for 300 euros.
Did Action Army advertise their T-10 as the end-of-all airsoft bolt action gun with tons and tons of facebook/instagram posts and youtube videos?

Because there lies the big difference between the Novritsch brand and literally everyone else.

And what makes me think: "oh, 'nother nice scam" every time I see a new gun being announced
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Old 09-16-2020, 07:37 AM   #98
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As if AA or any company wouldn't do it if it had as good of an advertising network as Novritsch. Seriously, if you really think all Novritsch product are 90% shit then you're a hater and we don't have to discuss this brand, but the brand is thriving, I see his products on every field I go to now and when I spoke to the owners, almost all of them are happy about it. The complains IMO is just a tiny amount, amplified by the hate.
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Old 09-16-2020, 10:42 AM   #99
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Yea, i think Nov might have out done himself by making his gun's expectations too high. Now time to try to hit a bottle a hundred meters with 2.5J and a .20g bb or split an atom, at 420 feet, with 1J, in the dark, and handcuffs, with a widebore, and a 25mm ER-hop :D
Lmao, exactly
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As if AA or any company wouldn't do it if it had as good of an advertising network as Novritsch. Seriously, if you really think all Novritsch product are 90% shit then you're a hater and we don't have to discuss this brand, but the brand is thriving, I see his products on every field I go to now and when I spoke to the owners, almost all of them are happy about it. The complains IMO is just a tiny amount, amplified by the hate.
Yeah, sounds about right.
My expectations were probably too high for my SSP1, and that's why I was disappointed it broke in the time it did.
I would be willing to get the SSX23 in the future, idk about the SSG10 though, I've already got a nice VSR-10 and don't need another.
Bottom line, it seems that his stuff is perfectly good, in fact better than most, and perfectly game ready without anything done to them.
But of course, improvements can always be made such as polishing, de-burring, shimming, light upgrading, and everything else.
Will it make it better?, of course, but by very very small amounts.
I really don't see an issue with doing a little sanding either, we have all done tons of work to our own guns and this minimizes the work and time significantly.

If I were to lose everything in a house fire, the first gun I would get would get would be the SSG10 hands down due to the parts and price.
Nothing as good or better than the SSG10 can be built for $299, absolutely nothing, and that is why it's such a good "beginner sniper" as you will inevitably become more advanced and start tinkering around trying to improve every little bit.
But for now, I'll be slinging .48s with zero sound out of my HPA VSR-10 and not bother with spring for a while.
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Old 09-16-2020, 11:49 AM   #101
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I think it's just salty people who over estimated the gun. I only have the SSX23 and haven't gotten the chance to use it in game so I can't really pick sides but I'd say it seems like a pretty solid gun as of now. And yea, his brand is thriving, kudos to Chris. Also, I just realized something, The SSX303 is like the only original nov product, that's why it's probably taking forever to drop.
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Old 09-16-2020, 12:38 PM   #102
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Novritsch could make a mass variety of parts so you could build a gun from scratch. People would bitch about that. Or build one and THEN bitch. Lol. When produced in mass there will be issues. Some controllable. But nothing will ever be perfect. The people who bash with the most negative comments on Instagram and such are the ones who expect perfection.
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The SSX303 isn't really original. It's a Mk23 with proprietary parts that only he provides so it fits his non universal carbine kit. It's for that reason I won't be buying one. If he would just make it a kit for any Mk23 I'd jump in.
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BlindSniper, he could do that but his stuff are supposed to be "preupgraded out of the box" but I agree with you. AccurateDMD, yea, his gun is literally a built in carbine kit bit i think the only thing is the longer barrel. It seems cool and I would want one if it was cheap but I know it's pretty expensive and there's no point to get one. So yea, I'd want one but never get one.
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Old 09-16-2020, 05:00 PM   #105
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By the sounds of it, the SSX303 is definitely better than a MK23 with an overpriced kit.
On paper that is.
It is supposed to have interchangeable valves to adjust power, and everything should be way stronger and more stable due to having a FULL ALUMINUM BODY (cough cough ESC Works and your 50% printed kit)
Also, it looks very cool to me, and would look even cooler with something like a homemade APS TRON style skeleton stock as well as being a bit more maneuverable than the regular one.
That being said, I very very highly doubt I'll get one seeing as it's gonna be $300+ and I'm already building an HPA M4 that will be better in many ways as well as being very unique.
But, as I posted earlier, if my house burnt down I'd probably get the 303 if I desired a DMR that was actually stealthy.

Maybe he'll sell the body separate like how you can get the A1 or A2 stock separately.
And maybe it won't actually be that hard to make it work with a regular MK23.
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