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Old 05-25-2014, 12:33 PM   #1
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Ares mcm700x vs VFC m40a3 review

Well I'm not good with reviews so I'll just jump right in.

I started off buying the VFC m40a3 hoping to fully upgrade it since it was fully VSR compatible. The day it came I liked the stock and it seemed to be built nice. Then i took it outside and shot it with .40's and .30s. It shot somewhat straight and was shooting around 160 feet max. One of the problems I had with it was it kept slam firing every couple of shots. Then I pulled the bolt back and the entire cocking handle cracked apart from the bolt. This was due to the poor construction. Basically the bolt had a couple round notches and the actual cocking handle had little holes that would make it VERY likely to break eventually. Afterward I sent the gun back to WGC workshop and had an AWFUL time with their customer support, but eventually got a refund from Paypal. Beware: There's only a three day warranty!

VFC M40a3
External stock-6
Bolt construction-3
Looks-8
Performance out of the box-6

Cons-Slam fires, awful bolt construction and the stock could be built nicer

Pros- Fully VSR compatible (or so they say)

After I got my money back for the VFC I decided to buy the new Ares M40a5 (mcm700x). When I received the gun I was amazed at how well the external quality was compared to the VFC. I checked the bolt and it had the nice little indents on nice metal and is NOT going to break any time soon. I then loaded about 10 bbs in it and went to fire it, except it wouldn't fire. This is because like most of Ares's spring guns the magazine must be completely loaded to shoot. You HAVE to load it with a speed loader. If you load it by hand you will hit the bb releasing switch and they will spurt out everywhere. Then I went and loaded it up with the speed loader and shot it for awhile. Now the amazing thing is that most of Ares's spring rifles are crap out the box, but they actually made a decent rifle this time. Out of the box I used .30 bbs since I'm out of .40s They shot dead straight and I am getting an effective range of about 175 feet. The main thing I do not like about this rifle is that only certain parts are upgradeable. Once I start upgrading I'll let you know how everything fits in.

Ares M40a5 (mcm700x)
External Stock-8
Bolt-9
Looks-8
Performance out of the box-8

Cons- Not fully VSR compatible and the magazine must be loaded all the way.

Pros- There is a co2 or gas bolt made for it, stock is built VERY nicely, shoots great out of the box (should still upgrade it), and the bolt won't break off.


In conclusion if you're looking for an M40a3 or a5 model you should just get a VSR 10 and make or buy an M40a3 or a5 stock. But if that's too much work for you then buy the Ares.

Here are some pictures of my Ares M40a5. I had a little black tape on the orange tip so don't mind that.






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Old 05-25-2014, 04:00 PM   #2
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Admins please move this thread to "rifles and parts review"
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Old 05-25-2014, 04:03 PM   #3
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Interesting review. That the first time I have heard of someone recommend the Ares over the VFC. Nothing beats hands on I suppose.
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My experience with the Ares is completely different from yours elfman.
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From what I've read and seen in reviews, both have pretty crap triggers stock. Bad thing is, both are proprietary to their design I think. Though the ares does have a 90 degree sear and metal cylinder components (source: www.sniperland.net ? Consulter le sujet - MCM700X (m40a3) d'ARES). They also have the mag sticking out, which some prefer (though their system is a bit special). Seeing how the VFC has so many problems, I would think the Ares is your better option by far.

And since PDI has been giving more attention to ares snipers, maybe they will make a trigger in the future.
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Old 05-26-2014, 03:04 AM   #6
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If you still have some pictures, please add them here for comparison. I plan on getting one later. I have a spare tx-cylinder set upgrade that I have not used. Although, that one comes with a 45 degrees sear (might just swap the piston, but use the rest).

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Old 05-26-2014, 04:09 AM   #7
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Or just wait for X-fire to get off their ass and finally finish the PDI/McMillen M40A3 they've advertised for almost 6 months now :P
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The mcm700x looks like it has msr internals in a m40 style stock just with a 90* sear


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Or just wait for X-fire to get off their ass and finally finish the PDI/McMillen M40A3 they've advertised for almost 6 months now :P
Knowing PDI, who charge excessive amounts for externals, that thing will cost a fortune.
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Nice job mate ... but how about some photo's....!!
I'd like to see that.

Also the first time EVER I've read something good about Ares!!


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Old 05-28-2014, 07:27 AM   #12
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Also the first time EVER I've read something good about Ares!! Wolf
Haha, I'm just as surprised as you are!
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Nice job mate ... but how about some photo's....!!
I'd like to see that.

Also the first time EVER I've read something good about Ares!!


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Surely you have heard stories about their excellent externals? The thing with Ares is that their internals are usually crap but they differ hugely between models.

Also eflman, those pics are a bit small?
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Or just wait for X-fire to get off their ass and finally finish the PDI/McMillen M40A3 they've advertised for almost 6 months now :P
I expect the pdi will be 2-4x the cost of these. The stock alone in the UK is 850ish and with there newly designed upper set I can see that part alone costing at least the price of the pdi complete upset set if not more.

I don't know anyone thats stuck with ares rifles in the long run, as said there externals generally get good feed back but the internals/unique design generally doesn't.

Any chance one could be fitted to a vsr?
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[QUOTE Also eflman, those pics are a bit small?[/QUOTE]

Yes they are a bit small but i couldn't make them bigger but i did try.

Also if you want to see a vid or some pictures of the gun go to my airsoft instagram account @Airsoftsnipers
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