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Old 10-23-2015, 04:47 PM   #31
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I'd go for the PDI trigger instead.
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Old 10-23-2015, 05:47 PM   #32
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narked the crap out of this post, also if you can try and make an intro post.
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Old 10-24-2015, 11:13 PM   #33
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I cant find a pdi trigger for this gun i can only find pdi triggers for the aw 338 thats different then the ms 338 any info help would be great
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Old 10-25-2015, 06:35 AM   #34
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Isn't the trigger the same for that platform? Or is it different?
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Old 11-03-2015, 12:54 AM   #35
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My MS338 just arrived in the mail today. Regrettably, my upgrade parts will not be here for another three weeks. What a dry and boring wait... Anyhow, I have the same issues with the bolt being rather difficult to cycle. Arktic's is not a lemon in any way. It's just a bad mold or cast or whatever it is they use. I won't be sanding it down, however, since I am replacing just about everything inside of the gun to begin with. I hope to have good news for you all within a month's time @[email protected]

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After tearing down the rifle completely, I have found that my issue with the stiff bolt pull is actually from a poor mate between my upper receiver and outer barrel. The outer barrel is held in place via friction and can move around easily if it isn't assembled carefully. I'll try shimming a bit with E-tape or something and get back to you all.
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Old 11-25-2015, 12:09 PM   #36
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Posting an update to my project status.

My MSR EDGI upgrade kit arrived yesterday 11/24/2015. Much to my surprise, the steel sear and piston that I received were a 90 degree set. I can't quite put it into words how surprised and happy I was when I saw that. Last time I checked, I was expecting to get a 45 degree, but that wasn't the case at all. No more stiff bolt push!!

Onto the parts themselves. The piston, cylinder, cylinder head, and spring guide stopper were all drop in without a single problem. The only issue I had was with the piston sear as something must have gone wrong during milling. Long story short, my piston sear was locking in the forwards position after one shot. It wasn't resetting into its neutral position like it was supposed to. The problem turned out to be a mix between my stock trigger box being a little bit off size and the sear having a little bit too much material on the bottom end. Not a big deal, buffed the bottom end of the sear, now it works 100%. The last problem I have is that my bolt handle is just a tiny bit loose. It functions just fine and locks into place perfectly, but it has a bout a half millimeter to one millimeter of wiggle room. Not enough to cause problems, but it is a little bit of something to note. I'll probably fix it later with a spacer or something.

Now having worked with the gun for a good while now, I'm actually pretty happy with the design that ARES put into the gun. The loading ramp doesn't use any of that fin nonsense and actually just uses the magazine spring to feed bb's up the tube. Now the only issue that I really have is the way that they mounted the outer barrel to the upper receiver. It's a friction hold rather than a threaded mount like a VSR. Tightening that down straight and solid was extremely impractical. If I had four hands I might have been able to do it without a problem, but the way it is simply isn't a good design. Other than that, I don't have much to say about the gun. External quality is excellent as one might imagine, but the stock internals are of course less than amazing. I haven't run too many accuracy/range tests, but I'll have time for those in the days to come.
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So forgive me for asking and bumping, but have you tried at all taking a dremel to lightly bevel the inside of what seems like it was meant to be a sling attachment point just before the folding stock point on the back? I can't help but want to since the stock seemingly lacks any sort of QD point unlike the hand guard area which has two and I'd most likely prefer to run this with a two-point sling.

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So forgive me for asking and bumping, but have you tried at all taking a dremel to lightly bevel the inside of what seems like it was meant to be a sling attachment point just before the folding stock point on the back? I can't help but want to since the stock seemingly lacks any sort of QD point unlike the hand guard area which has two and I'd most likely prefer to run this with a two-point sling.

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I hesitate to dremel away any material from that end of the rifle. I am assuming you are referring to the hole that the bolt handle pokes through when the stock is folded? If that is the case, you would weaken the structure supporting the stock which doesn't sound very appealing to me.
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Old 02-04-2016, 09:04 AM   #39
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No no no, I was talking about this one whalesmash.



Oh and as a side note to anyone whose wondering, I found the remaining screw that holds the trigger box on, its through it after you take out the spring guide; I needed an eyeglass screwdriver to get that little bastard out (It doesn't come out unless you take the trigger components apart but it stays inside the trigger mechanism when unscrewed so.. Can't lose it I guess?)

And in addition, I don't know when they did it, but my 338 came with a 90 degree sear and a metal piston/spring guide (Although the sear is probably still pot metal; when I looked a the piston after pulling it out to replace with mancraft SDiK I noticed there was some metal scrapings on it that I am assuming came off the sear from my one or two cockings after I got it.)


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338 MSR Magazine Internals (AKA I hope you never have to clean these...):





After firing 2000 rounds of unwashed BB's through my MSR, I began having some feeding issues with the gun. It turns out that residue began building up inside my magazines and I had to take them apart in order to clean them.

Internally, the 338 magazines use a helix pattern to feed their bb's. It's the only way they could get 70 rounds to fit into the magazine. Now, for the books, I definitely recommend against loading that many rounds into the magazine. It will only cause problems in the long run.
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My MSR EDGI upgrade kit arrived yesterday 11/24/2015. Much to my surprise, the steel sear and piston that I received were a 90 degree set. I can't quite put it into words how surprised and happy I was when I saw that. Last time I checked, I was expecting to get a 45 degree, but that wasn't the case at all. No more stiff bolt push!!
How much did the kit excluding the barrel cost you?

Thanks for the wealth of info btw. I had no clue Edgi made stuff for Ares rifles.
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How much did the kit excluding the barrel cost you?

Thanks for the wealth of info btw. I had no clue Edgi made stuff for Ares rifles.
The kit including the barrel was $450 I think without the barrel it would be somewhere around $370? I'm not too sure since I ordered everything together. I suppose you could just subtract the cost of a standard 420mm 6.01 edgi barrel however much those typically go for.
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Hey whalesmash, you have any clue what the depressive area on the magazine is for? I mean the part opposite to the feed area that also seems to be spring loaded for whatever reason?
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Hey whalesmash, you have any clue what the depressive area on the magazine is for? I mean the part opposite to the feed area that also seems to be spring loaded for whatever reason?
It's just a spring loaded system to eject the mag easier. It doesn't work super well since the mags and upper receiver don't have a smooth finish. Theoretically, it would just shoot the mag out of the mag well if you depressed the release lever, but yeah, it doesn't work very well
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Old 03-17-2016, 09:31 AM   #45
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Ah.. Ha :P

God I wish I had the free time to finish lapping my PDI barrel to get it Rhop'd and installed.

On the offhand; how well does the hopup chamber accept rhop-style mods if you know? I haven't had the time for a full teardown.
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