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Old 04-25-2016, 09:10 PM   #1
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Survey: How important is your ghillie suit?

I'm making a ghillie suit and I just bought a Condor one. I usually just wear Flecktarn or MARPAT, a hat with sniper mesh, and gloves.

Some popular YouTube airsoft snipers hardly wear a ghillie suit at all, and the US Army sniper manual shows a ghillie suit that's much different than your typical store-bought airsoft sniper costume. (It has canvas instead of ghillie material on the parts of the body that touch the ground during a crawl.)

We should get an idea of how airsoft snipers on here view the ghillie suit. Here are some questions...

Do you have a ghillie suit? If yes, did you buy it or make it? what does it cover?
(Whole body, front & arms, head, etc.)
From 1 to 10, how often do you wear the suit?
(10 = every game, 0 = never)
From 1 to 10, how much of your ability to hide from opponents comes from your suit?
(1 = hardly any, I mostly use cover; 10 = without my ghillie suit I might as well be painted blaze orange and decorated with Christmas lights)
Add anything you want... amount of experience might be good, as well as the type of terrain you play in.
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Old 04-25-2016, 10:45 PM   #2
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I made by own suit from Swanks Sniper Tog and it is a top half suit, no pants.
-I just made it a few weeks ago so I've only fielded it once
-It definitely aided me a ton. Two enemies just about stepped on me from the front when I scared them for fun :D
-A suit that is tailored to the environment you are in will work much better and help you hide all the more.
-I play in a mix of sparse woodland with areas of wheat field.
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Old 04-25-2016, 11:18 PM   #3
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Q:Do you have a ghillie suit? If yes, did you buy it or make it? what does it cover?

A:Yes, I do own a ghillie. I painstakingly made mine by hand and nearly threw it into the fireplace halfway through. It uses 1" fish net as mesh, on chocolate chip desert camo BDU's.
My suit has jute on the tops of the arms and my back. My front has no netting or jute, a characteristic 'stalker' suit.(this makes crawling through anything MUCH easier.)
Q:From 1 to 10, how often do you wear the suit? (10 = every game, 0 = never)

A:Sadly, I have to say 2/10 here. I added FAR TOO MUCH jute, and dread wearing the thing or the thought of untying all that jute. It's bulky, leaves jute fibers everywhere, and is generally unpleasant. A serious rework is in order sometime this summer.
Q:From 1 to 10, how much of your ability to hide from opponents comes from your suit? (1 = hardly any, I mostly use cover; 10 = without my ghillie suit I might as well be painted blaze orange and decorated with Christmas lights)

A: This one gets a 7. My suit isn't the pinnacle of sniper garb, but when wearing it most people have a hard time spotting me. Prone or low crouch work best for concealment with my suit.
Add anything you want... amount of experience might be good, as well as the type of terrain you play in.

I play on private property, in pine forests with occasional grassy fields. I've been experimenting with colors to find a shade that matches the brown/orange of dead pine needles as well as the plain jute color of dead grass. No luck yet :(
I've been sniping a while, I guess.
To brush on your main post, Army ghillie suits have canvas on the "high traffic" parts of the suit to aid in comfort as well as durability. Standard BDU's wear down pretty fast when you scratch around like a 1-legged lizard having a seizure. Store-bought ghillie's are pretty much just as you described them: COSTUMES. Few are worthy of the name, and nearly all fall apart very quickly.

Ghillie suits are seen more as a 'flair' than actual camouflage to most people, hence why many Youtubers only use them for "sniper" gameplay. For those that do recognize their practical uses, they also know the long list of cons to using them, including
  • Inability to blend with buildings, rocks, etc.
  • Inability to blend with standard troops.
  • Can restrict movement, usually make you sweaty.
  • Constant attention to maintaining effective garnish.
  • Difficulty in accessing select gear.
  • Storing when not needed in-game requires ample backpack space, etc.
  • Most games are far too fast-paced to warrant their use. (Novritch is of the same mindset, and your main example I assume)

Don't get me wrong, I love my ghillie! I view them as an essential piece of kit for every sniper, and making your own is like a badge of honor. It's just that mine is too bulky.

My recommendation for you is to use as little jute/burlap as possible. Whether you make a full suit or just a ghillie hood,
LESS IS MORE
It might look like not enough, but ignore your gut feeling. Break in what you have, then see if you need more AFTER that.
...I ignored that tidbit of advice and really regret it now. Untying jute is like torture for your fingers.
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Old 04-26-2016, 05:44 AM   #4
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[QI]Do you have a ghillie suit? If yes, did you buy it or make it? what does it cover?

Yes I have had two ghillie suits. I made both of them. The one I use the most is built on a BDU shirt and boonie hat. The shirt covers the full length of my arms and my back to just past my butt. I did not cover the front so that I can crawl easier. The boonie hat covers the top, sides and back of my head and comes down to about my collar bones. I don't wear ghillie trousers so that I can move more freely in vegetation.

[Q2]From 1 to 10, how often do you wear the suit?
10. I play in heavy woodland so when I'm sniping I always use it. It's as important as the rifle I'm using.

[Q3]From 1 to 10, how much of your ability to hide from opponents comes from your suit?
8. Because of the 328fps limit and the way I play, I like to get in relitively close behind the enemy's line. So everything that helps me go undetected I use. A couple of times I haven't worn it but I find I can't get away with the same stuff as I do with the ghille. For instance, on numerous occasions I had enemy patrols walk within 3 meters of me and not know I was there. I would have got caught if I wasn't wearing the ghillie.
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Old 04-27-2016, 07:39 PM   #5
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Thanks for the comments so far.

StealthFundip: If you're willing to use spray paint, check out the color chart at Liquitex (link to color chart at the bottom). There are 100 colors, most of which were only available for airbrush use until a few years ago. I'm not sure how you'd do it with dye.
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Thanks for the comments so far.

StealthFundip: If you're willing to use spray paint, check out the color chart at Liquitex (link to color chart at the bottom). There are 100 colors, most of which were only available for airbrush use until a few years ago. I'm not sure how you'd do it with dye.
I'm not too keen on spray paint, especially for coloring jute. I'll try to remember that company in case my testing this summer doesn't go too well, though.
Thanks for the input! There are lots of colors there that would be pretty hard to replicate with dye...
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