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Old 05-31-2020, 08:03 PM   #1
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Homemade Ghillie Questions!!!

With a ton of time on my hands and the inability to sit still for extended periods of time, I have decided to make a Ghillie suit. Currently I have some raffia I picked up from a craft store as well as some green dye and brown dye. I have a woodland camo shirt, but no matching pants. 1) My shirt is a decent but big for me. Is this good? Im guessing this will help break up my outline a bit more. 2) Do I need to use matching pants, or can I use something else? 3) how much will the undercolors of your Ghillie affect the outer layer of jute and raffia? I will be picking up some burlap bags and netting tomorrow. Thanks!
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Old 05-31-2020, 08:56 PM   #2
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Larger is better for outline disruption, to a point.

The under colors will matter depending on how much stuff you throw on top of it.

Here's the deal. These things are HOT. Like, super hot. If you've never worn a jute ghillie in summer, well, I don't recommend it. It sucks. That's why so many are moving to artificial leaf ghillies.

I have a KMCS, but I've built a number of jute ghillies (years ago) that worked too. They were stupid hot. I'm a less is more crafter now. What I mean by that is this:

Don't try to make the ghillie blend in on it's own with all artificial crap. Add ONLY enough to break up the outline and disrupt shadows and then fill the rest in at the field your natural vegetation.

This will accomplish two things. First, it will make the ghillie lighter, and more comfortable. Second it will be more versatile.

This is the main reason I'm a fan of the newer leaf suits. It doesn't have to be KMCS (although the colors are awesome). The leaf base breaks up the outline on its own and the mesh works wonders for keeping you cool. It has plenty of vegetation attachment points and you can craft it however you please. There is even a crafters kit with just the mesh base and no leaves now. So that may be good if you're in a desert environment or mainly in an area with pine trees and no leaves. Otherwise... get the leaf suit.

If you're gonna make your own focus on attachment points for natural things and don't completely cover it with jute and raffia or you will be miserable.
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Old 05-31-2020, 09:17 PM   #3
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Good points. I would get a pair of pants to go with my upper, but the current issue is that my local surplus store just closed. Would an olive green pair of pants or something similar work?
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I have 2 base leaf suits. One for brown months and one for greener months. Obviously where everyone lives will vary. But the green leaf suit I have is really thin. It’s like a screen. Air will flow way better than the normal combat shirt and pants I’d normally wear. So I’m hoping I stay cooler than normal. (Haven’t tried the green setup out yet). But that mesh is perfect for adding extra material with small hook tool from a craft store. Just find artificial vegetation that looks good in your terrain. You should go all out too! Well I mean anything is better than nothing. Just a leaf suit is a step up from normal clothing for breaking up your outline. But if you do the mask, hat, gun and gloves that’s even more blending in!! Attached is my green setup and I have a video for dying leaves if you take that route!! Good luck on your ghillie crafting! I rambled on like I normally do but my main point is try your best to stay cooler in the summer, With the mesh base I can just show up in shorts and a t shirt.

EDIT: let me try and at least be useful and try give input for one of your questions, my apologies.

I wouldn’t worry too much about the pants. The top parts help so much and if you stay low you can do without ghillie pants. OR with a leaf suit just leave the pants unmodified and focus on adding to the top
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Thanks Blind Sniper! I know I'm gonna regret it, but I've already bought the raffia, and honestly, this is just as much of a thing to kill time as it is for the end product. I may cut some windows in the pants/short and cover with mesh to keep well vented. I have some krylon I picked up a while back for my gun that I'll probably just use to make the pants look similar to the shirt. Doesn't have to look pretty, it's gonna be covered up by random foliage by the end of the week! Yeah, I know I'll sweat like a dog, but that's a risk I'm willing to take.
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Old 05-31-2020, 11:09 PM   #6
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I totally can relate to killing time. That is the whole reason I was able to finish my setup. One thing that is super noticeable is once you put ANYTHING over a mesh mask. My winter mask I put some hunting burlap over it and man I noticed it just...breathing lol. That’s a mask I used in the dead of winter, which here was like 10-20 if I’d go to a game. Even THEN the extra layer over the mesh mask had me overheating and sometimes fogging. On my summer mask I left the mesh mask uncovered in front of my mouth. It’s all about the circulation!!
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I totally can relate to killing time. That is the whole reason I was able to finish my setup. One thing that is super noticeable is once you put ANYTHING over a mesh mask. My winter mask I put some hunting burlap over it and man I noticed it just...breathing lol. That’s a mask I used in the dead of winter, which here was like 10-20 if I’d go to a game. Even THEN the extra layer over the mesh mask had me overheating and sometimes fogging. On my summer mask I left the mesh mask uncovered in front of my mouth. It’s all about the circulation!!
Lucky.... We don't even play in the winter because it gets to below 0 on a regular basis (not celcius). School in the area has literally been cancelled for being too cold. Yikes.
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I rarely wear bottom leaf pants. Just regular olive ones are what I run.
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Update: much of the jute has been prepared from the burlap bags (only 50 a pop, what a deal!), and the netting is being stitched to the bdu. The netting I bought was bird netting, which is actually relatively weak, but I have like 4 layers, so it should hopefully stay relatively strong. I would have gone with fishnet if I could do it over again, but this is what was available for me to pick up at the store. By tonight the shirt should be ready to "ghillie up".
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Try shoe goo instead of stitching everything in. Just as strong if not stronger, and way easier to apply.
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Old 06-01-2020, 06:27 PM   #11
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Try shoe goo instead of stitching everything in. Just as strong if not stronger, and way easier to apply.
I have shoe goo, was planning on addigg onto the stitches
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Old 08-31-2020, 12:15 PM   #12
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I have built my own partial ghillie before. I used a black fishnet and cow hitch some OD green and brown yarn on it. The yarn, in my opinion, is quite good when trying to get some natural debris on it. What I usually do is just drag it on the ground. The yarn will collect and entagle any dead natural foliage which makes its camouflage a lot more efficient. Downside though is that it collects more moisture than burlap.
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I have built my own partial ghillie before. I used a black fishnet and cow hitch some OD green and brown yarn on it. The yarn, in my opinion, is quite good when trying to get some natural debris on it. What I usually do is just drag it on the ground. The yarn will collect and entagle any dead natural foliage which makes its camouflage a lot more efficient. Downside though is that it collects more moisture than burlap.
That's pretty sweet looking! Never finished mine.... It's currently sitting in a pile in the garage hahaha
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what do you guys think about nov's ghillie leaves
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Novs leaves are nice because they are made to cater to airsofters who want to craft ghillie suits! However the stock won’t last long! I found all my leaves with stems at craft stores. Last weekend I drove around to like 5 stores and bought green decor for the leaves!!



Shoe goo is great, I used this stuff called e6000. Sounds...INDUSTRIAL!! Also I found TONS of good crafting material on eBay and Amazon by searching “artificial” leaves, branches, ferns etc...hit or miss though. Some may need dusted to darken or lighten!!

Also your base line maple leaves from Amazon are easy to dye!! I have a YouTube diy guide!! BUT if you don’t want to spend the time dying, I dyed like 500 green leaves to sell! 50 leaves for $25, or 100 leaves for $40. (The basic clothe leaves withOUT stems)

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