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Old 06-29-2020, 11:13 PM   #1
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What Cylinder Should I Use?

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I've been thinking of building a new VSR and I am in the market for a ne cylinder.
My current options are

Lambda

PDI Bore Up

PDI Regular

https://www.kppairsoft.com.br/plataf...n-spr-a5m.html

https://www.airsoftguns-europe.com/u...guns?_fid=9fgt

And maybe an EdGi set if I become a millionaire

Also, what do you guys think of this?
https://www.kppairsoft.com.br/plataf...on-braker.html

IDK much about cyinders and pistons since I only have some shiddd Angle Custom stuff and my prized Wolverine Bolt, but if you guys could give me your opinions, experiences, and little tips regarding wear and piston compatibility I would be quite happy.
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Old 06-30-2020, 04:54 AM   #2
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If you just want a cheap but solid cylinder with no frills then I can recommend shs/pps ones. Their not teflon coated or bore up but they just work.
I have never really understood why people like Edgi cylinder parts. They're not anything special (I think). Their just expensive. Their piston is interesting but the WASP and SCW ones are better. I think that their cylinders are basically just steel with no teflon coating and bore up. Isn't that just the same as pps/shs makes...?
I quite like the look of the action army fluted teflon cylinder to be honest. In at least one shop it is also £0.50 cheaper than the normal one. Big savings right there.
Taking a look at the KPP airsoft piston, I just now realised that there are no o-rings on the cylinder head supplied. You will need to put these in. Also, since it is drilled out, I have literally no idea how you could fit a sorbo pad on. I think that pps managed to do something like this on their drilled out cylinder head by cutting a circular groove around the hole and sticking a thicc o-ring in it.
May I also suggest the Maple Leaf Cylinder.

Diagram of PPS cylinder head (I think that I have labelled things correctly):
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Parts like EdGi are overkill for airsoft but I think the quality is there. The EdGi is a little thicker. Like a small percentage thicker but noticeable. For instance my EdGi cylinder in a maple leaf receiver has almost no play, a guide sleeve isn’t even needed. Other cylinders are a little less THICC so the tolerances aren’t as tight.

EdGi cylinders also have beefier threads on the cylinder head. Well not necessarily a different pitch but the material is stronger which helps when running weighted pistons.

Also, EdGi cylinders and a few other brands are ONE piece. Like the back half doesn’t have any pins or anything. AirsoftPro is another brand like that. Again not needed but I spent the money because I really don’t ever have to worry about it breaking. Neither long nor short term.
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I've run a laylax for years and it hasn't let me down. Never heard anything bad about one.
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I've run a laylax for years and it hasn't let me down. Never heard anything bad about one.
Laylax did very well with their cylinder. Not so much with their hopup chamber...
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No experience with the Lambda. PDI I have plenty.

I have both types, the bore up and premier lines. While it is possible to make other pistons fit into them, its a bit of work, more so with the premier then the bore up. I have yet to break anything running at 3.6J. (except for other people's optics, I break those. Not on purpose though.) Lucky 99% of the time PDI only sells cylinders as sets, so you get the piston and spring guide too. (cheaper that way too believe it or not.)

I am fairly sure Edgi is not a one piece. Unless that has changed. Not that I really care that much to look.

Not a fan of AA. Broke the cylinder cap that holds the handle on. Dunno if it was just a shit machine job or what. Don't really care, as it was replaced with a PDI HD premier set.
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While it is possible to make other pistons fit into them, its a bit of work, more so with the premier then the bore up.

I was thinking more towards getting the Bore Up and an HD piston until it broke, but what other pistons have you made work?
I suppose I could make my own, but I'd be interested to know if it could save me some trouble.
Also, what is the volume difference between the Bore Up and regular?
Might be nice to know when I start to pick a barrel.

Edit: Palsonite or no?, it looks nice but idk if its needed for the Delrin sleeve I will be making.
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The bore up has more volume, over the regular VSR cylinder. The premier is smaller then the regular VSR cylinder. Not a whole lot, but enough. 430mm barrel is good with either. You could get the palsonite, its nice. Mine is and its delrin sleeved. Though not really needed, as the regular will be just as smooth.
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I've run a laylax for years and it hasn't let me down. Never heard anything bad about one.
I suggest Laylax too. Very good quality, not so expensive and can stand strong springs without issues.
Never read anything against Laylax's products so far. The seller who sold me the TM VSR suggested me Laylax when asked him which brand to choose for upgrade.
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The bore up has more volume, over the regular VSR cylinder. The premier is smaller then the regular VSR cylinder.
If you have a way to measure, could you maybe tell me the the volume of each?
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