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Old 08-29-2018, 11:34 PM   #1
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Oh No! DMR Project - HK 417D VFC or ICS MARS DMR?

Good evening.

First and foremost let me admit that I am not a tech kind of guy... and small parts tend to roll out from my hands and hide under the furniture.

Things break and electronics tends to glitch in my presence.

That being said I love to play as a Sniper but I aways need help with the tech support, so here I am.

I am considering building a DMR and I would like to buy something that would require little tuning or modification (unlike my ECHO1 ASR that is almost all modified).

So... the candidates so far:

- HK VFC 417D;
- ICS MARS KOMODO;
- ICS MARS DMR.
- ARES?

I am sure you guys know many others and I am listening...can you fellows give me a hand? I am aiming for 450 fps, very long range (70+ meters).
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Old 08-30-2018, 07:52 AM   #2
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The 417's v2.2 gearbox is a very bad design that breaks easily so that would need to be changed for an XCR(v2.2.1) or Retro Arms gearbox. An ICS can be an effective DMR with some modification but from what Jeppe on here said the upper gearbox can wobble around a bit and needs to be stabilized in order to have DMR accuracy. Ares guns are pretty cool and can be made pre-cocking easily. A G&P, VFC or Lonex AR would be a good base and fairly easy to upgrade.
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The good news is that you can hit 70m with less than 450 fps, so your selection can be a lot wider if you need it to be. You also don't have to venture into exotic builds or parts to get that far. Just some really good tuning. Just about anything will work (including my Combat Machine!).

Echo 1 ASR, hunh? What's that like? I've been eyeing one of those up for some time but I just haven't bumped into one yet.
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Old 08-30-2018, 08:34 AM   #4
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buy one of the new G&G 308 guns. Through in a new spring, barrel and bucking and you will be good to go.
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Y'know, speaking of G&G, I wonder if anyone has turned an SG550 into a serious shooter. I know, it's kind of like wanting to hotrod a moped, but there's a certain mystique about an unheard of build, and it sure does have all the potential to do so.
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Hotrod a moped? No sweat, just come over here. All the local kids do it, all you gotta do is rip out the exhaust baffles. I'm gonna use the gang that ride up and down here on Sundays as target practice for the M4 when I've finished it.


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buy one of the new G&G 308 guns. Through in a new spring, barrel and bucking and you will be good to go.
And piston+head and deans. But there are other good options for far cheaper.
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And piston+head and deans. But there are other good options for far cheaper.
Absolutely! I wasn't kidding about the Combat Machine. That's the DMR project for this winter...just to prove we can. hahahaha
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And piston+head and deans. But there are other good options for far cheaper.
It come with deans and better internals than most stock guns already.
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G&G's higher end internals are pretty decent so long as you are not doing a high stress build then they last a while.
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This gun is a whole new platform with completely different parts than any of their previous guns.
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G&G are good but since you are not a tech I would suggest getting something with a quick change spring.
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It also come with a quick change spring guide. They absolutly went all out on this new line. Here is the only video ive seen that takes the gun apart. Sorry but it is not english.
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The link to the video isn't working on my end. Not sure if you guys can see it. The review was done by reapers airsoft. The new gun is the G&G tr16 mbr 308
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Yeah I have to say, that new 308 seems pretty spiffy...
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