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Old 04-13-2019, 01:00 PM   #1
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Notable AEG Buckings/Barrels

I'm trying to compile a list of notable AEG buckings/barrels, which have some following or strong marketing claiming that they are amazing. I'm avoiding adding discontinued items (like the TK Twist) and strongly debunked items (wide bores, miracle barrel, hybrid barrel).


If you know about something that I'm missing, please let me know.



So far my list has:


Edgi 6.01
PDI 6.01
PDI Raven 6.01
Prometheus 6.03
Maple Leaf Crazy Jet Barrel
Poseidon Air Cushion Barrel
TNT (H)S+ Barrel

Maple Leaf Macaroon
Maple Leaf Super Macaroon
Maple Leaf Hot Shot
TNT TR Bucking
TRU-HOP bucking
Poseidon Bucking
PDI W-Hold Bucking
Krytac Bucking
Prometheus Purple Bucking
G&G Green Bucking
Lonex 70D



And the odd mix: Umbrella Armory's RHOP'd Prometheus barrel.

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Old 04-13-2019, 02:36 PM   #2
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I have heard good things about the G&G green bucking and the Lonex 70D and have seen them used in a number of different builds. I suggest that you do a list on nubs too as a good bucking needs a good nub to give the best performance.
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Old 04-13-2019, 06:22 PM   #3
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Those are both 'plain tm style' with the standard 'mound' and 'nub'. I've got some swimming around in the bin, but I don't think they're really in the community spotlight.

Still, I'll fish them out and if I've got time test then with the rest.

I don't think there's a lot of styles of nub going around. You've got MAXX, Maple Leaf, Skees, Panthera, TruHop, Modify flat, Prometheus flat, TNT flat (extra wide), shark, m-nubs, and the original style.

You can really split the nubs into three categories:
Concave
Flat
Original (+ shark)

Most of the buckings listed are explicitly meant to be used with either a concave or flat nub. PDI W Hold, Krytac, and Prometheus buckings are all meant to be used with the original style nub.

I don't think it'd be very practical to test every bucking on this list with every category of nub. I'll be honest when I say that I'm of the opinion that most buckings will benefit from a concave style nub, and that the MAXX one will probably make a good benchmark. Obviously a couple will need the original nub, but for the others I'll probably test them with the MAXX stuff first.

I'll probably test nubs eventually, but the nubs can be tested individually with whatever bucking I end up liking the most.

Anyways, I've got everything on the OP list on the way. I can't promise that I'll get around to writing up everything, but that's my goal right now.

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Old 04-14-2019, 12:00 PM   #4
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some setups only work with the right nub, tnt buckings for instant perfrom bad in my expirience with concave nubs (specially the hard maxx nubs) and only start to shine with softer flat ones.
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Old 04-14-2019, 04:26 PM   #5
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On behalf of the G&G green bucking, it's a fantastic candidate especially when doing an r hop. The air seal is fantastic and it's flexible enough not to influence the profile of the nub pushing through to the r hop patch. The Lonex 50 is also good for this application.
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I have heard good things about the G&G green bucking and the Lonex 70D and have seen them used in a number of different builds. I suggest that you do a list on nubs too as a good bucking needs a good nub to give the best performance.

and lonex is dirt cheap too, ( 50D and 70D )
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Old 04-15-2019, 02:46 AM   #7
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and lonex is dirt cheap too, ( 50D and 70D )
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Old 04-15-2019, 05:04 AM   #8
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G&G greens are the best simplest AEG buckings, the secret to G&G guns OOTB performance.


Maple leaf stuff is the true evolution in buckings
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Old 04-17-2019, 10:47 PM   #9
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Hey, what about ZCI Barrels? Stainless Steel, 6.02mm, and a very agreeable price! I had a rather long one (AEG cut) in my old L96 and it worked much better than the stock barrel.

Even if others have had less than stellar experiences, they're cheap enough to be good contenders for DIY polishing.



...As for G&G Greens, I have several that I use for drop-in upgrades over stock buckings, and I've had no complaints yet. Very squishy and great at gripping bb's.
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Old 04-18-2019, 07:36 AM   #10
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I added the lonex bucking and g&g bucking to the list.

I’ll try the TNT bucking with both their flat nub and the MAXX nub. If the maxx nub performs better then I’ll probably use it for all of the ‘windowed’ buckings.

I’m not going to bother with ZCI barrels. Like the OP said, I’m looking for things that have some claim to ‘the best’, not liked-but-not-loved budget items.
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Old 04-28-2019, 06:23 PM   #11
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So, I tested all of the barrels and some of the buckings. It was a hot and long day, so I decided to cut it short a bit. Eventually I'll upload a bunch of photos, but right now I'm tired, sunburned, and really itching to play New Vegas.

ICS AR-style AEG
  • MAXX Nozzle/CH/HU-unit (meaning to replace maxx CH bc design flaw can break gearbox shell CH Pegs)
  • PDI full Palsonite Cylinder
  • Retro Arms Piston Head
  • Kratos piston
  • ASG M115 spring
  • Seigetek gears
  • Action Army Motor
  • Gate Titan Advanced (not set for precocking)
  • Fired @ 1.25J w/ .4g bbs.
Groups were obtained in a shitty makeshift gunvice featuring 2 vices and a bunch of bricks.

Quickly grabbing a ruler to the targets and sloppily measuring:

Measured @ 100ft w/ ASG .40g BBs

All barrels were cleaned w/ rubbing alcohol prior to testing. All barrels were as close to 285mm as commercially available.
  • Poseidon Air Cushion Barrel - 2/20 wild fliers, some "same hole" shots. ~3" w/o fliers. Unknown w/ fliers (wildly missed target).
  • Maple Leaf Crazy Jet Barrel - Around 3.5"
  • PDI 6.01 - around 4.5"
  • Edgi 6.01 - around 4.5"
  • Prometheus 6.03 - around 6"
  • TNT S+ Barrel - Total garbage. Had trouble hitting a 14" target at 100ft.
  • PDI Raven 6.01 - couldn't get it to feed? multiple attempts
Buckings were tested with a 247mm Prommy barrel (it was cheaper to buy an extra prommy barrel and use the UA setup I had laying around than buy another UA setup in a longer length)

TNT TR Bucking w/ Modify Nub - 9". The TNT TR nub is too wide to fit AEG chambers.

Since the TNT TR bucking had a better group with the MAXX nub, I decided to use that going forward.

Everything below was tested with the MAXX nub
  • Reaps: ~3.5" w/o 1 flier. 6.5" w/ the flier.
  • UA R-Hop w/ ML bucking: 5'5" w/ ~half shots in 3.5"
  • TNT TR Bucking - 6.5", mostly vertical spread
  • Maple Leaf Macaroon - 12" w/ 3 fliers. 4.5" without.
  • TRU-HOP bucking - ~8". 3 fliers missed the target (too low)
  • Maple Leaf Super Macaroon - FPS cut in half? Didn't bother shooting at target.
  • Poseidon Bucking - Wouldn't feed; looks to only fit Poseidon barrel

Didn't test (yet):
  • PDI W-Hold Bucking
  • Krytac Bucking
  • Prometheus Purple Bucking
  • G&G Green Bucking
  • Lonex 70D
  • Maple Leaf Hot Shot
Notes:
  • There are really two groups with the Poseidon barrel. The rifle was adjusted slightly in the vice. This is reflected in the reported numbers.
  • It took a small handful of attempts to install the reaps bucking without pinching it. The reaps bucking was too long to fit the barrel clip in the hop-up unit.
  • FPS with the .4g BB didn't seem to changed between the 247mm barrel used to test the hop-up, and the ~285 barrels used for the barrel tests.
  • The Maple Leaf Macaroon bucking offered the best FPS consistency
  • The "barrel test" with the 285mm Prommy barrel and maple leaf macaroon bucking yielded less fliers but a worse grouping w/o fliers than the 247mm prommy barrel and the same maple leaf macaroon bucking.
  • PDI, EdGI, and Prometheus were all measured with a hard plastic barrel stabalizer that broke before it could be tested with other barrels. Because of this Posiden and Maple Leaf barrels might outperform them even more.

Future tests for a cooler day:
  • Buckings that I grabbed but didn't test today (I doubt most will lift .4g though)
  • Poseidon barrel + Poseidon bucking
  • UA R-hop w/ flat hopped reaps bucking
  • ML W/ HotShot vs ML W/ Reaps
  • Poseidon bucking modified to 247mm prommy
  • effect of removing barrel bridge on groupings
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Old 04-29-2019, 07:54 PM   #12
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Here are some photos pt1
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Old 04-29-2019, 07:57 PM   #13
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here are some photos pt2


Eventually I'll post individual pictures of the labeled targets, but I don't have the time to take pictures of them individually right now.
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