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Old 04-27-2019, 02:01 PM   #1
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So my B-day is coming up(June), and I am thinking about getting an new AEG. This question might not fit here or partly not. But I hope you guys can help me. I both like the AK5 and the M14(G&G EBR M14). But can't make up my mind. If I get the the M14 I atleast want to change the spring to an M130. Not sure about the upgrades for both. I just hope you guys can help me make up my mind. One thing I noticed is that when I used my Krytac Trident last week(first time for really airsofting) is that I really like the range of it, I had no problem hitting people far away from me.

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Old 04-27-2019, 02:37 PM   #2
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Well letís see..Iíve had both guns, the one I kept? The EBR-L. Each one has their place, but for a long range AEG, the M14 will outreach the AK5 without a lot of effort. You sure donít need a 130 spring either. Out of the box the EBR is a better shooter and far less finicky to tech on.

The AK5 is a very cool and weird platform (my kid has it now). It does take M4 mags instead of the proprietary M14 that the EBR takes. The 5 is a pretty heavy gun too. In fact, I canít say thereís any real difference between them. I games the 5 for an entire season and after the glitches were out, it was a rock solid, somewhat indestructible platform. Still is...

So, why keep the EBR? Itís bigger, takes special mags, has a weird trigger shuttle and gearbox, but man what a shooter! The 5 uses common gearbox parts but be careful with the hopup, itís proprietary. The EBR will have a slow trigger because of the goofy mechanism that pulls the switch, but if you treat it more like an electric sniper (with full auto option) itís absolutely deadly.

Both rifles have decent rail estate and can carry optics, but the EBR really benefits from a magnified optic as the range is exceptional once itís built up.

Ok, so if I wasnít as much of an obsessed tech as I am, which would I run if I wanted a rifle I could mod and soup up fairly quickly? Probably the 5. Itís more compact with the folding stock option. The fact that it takes M4 mags makes you more flexible on the fly, and upgrades are cheaper and can happen more quickly...

Why did I keep the EBR then? Because the potential of the EBR as a serious long range shooter is exceptional...and it is an exceptional shooter. Just more work to get it there.

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Old 04-27-2019, 02:57 PM   #3
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Well letís see..Iíve had both guns, the one I kept? The EBR-L. Each one has their place, but for a long range AEG, the M14 will outreach the AK5 without a lot of effort. You sure donít need a 130 spring either. Out of the box the EBR is a better shooter and far less finicky to tech on.

The AK5 is a very cool and weird platform (my kid has it now). It does take M4 mags instead of the proprietary M14 that the EBR takes. The 5 is a pretty heavy gun too. In fact, I canít say thereís any real difference between them. I games the 5 for an entire season and after the glitches were out, it was a rock solid, somewhat indestructible platform. Still is...

So, why keep the EBR? Itís bigger, takes special mags, has a weird trigger shuttle and gearbox, but man what a shooter! The 5 uses common gearbox parts but be careful with the hopup, itís proprietary. The EBR will have a slow trigger because of the goofy mechanism that pulls the switch, but if you treat it more like an electric sniper (with full auto option) itís absolutely deadly.

Both rifles have decent rail estate and can carry optics, but the EBR really benefits from a magnified optic as the range is exceptional once itís built up.

Ok, so if I wasnít as much of an obsessed tech as I am, which would I run if I wanted a rifle I could mod and soup up fairly quickly? Probably the 5. Itís more compact with the folding stock option. The fact that it takes M4 mags makes you more flexible on the fly, and upgrades are cheaper and can happen more quickly...

Why did I keep the EBR then? Because the potential of the EBR as a serious long range shooter is exceptional...and it is an exceptional shooter. Just more work to get it there.

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Need to wait a month and a week for my B-day, thank you very much for your input. It is a really hard choice. I live in sweden and my brother is in the army, that the reason I would like the ak5, and so would he. At the other side I am really leaning towards the G&G M14 EBR L. And really use it as an DMR type of weapon. and use it for long ranges.
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Yep! That is a hard choice...especially for a Swede! Hahahaha. The 5 is a really nice gun and I donít envy your decision...but, if youíre basing it on range, the M14 will outgun the 5...and has the potential to way outshoot it. The 3-9x 40 scope on my EBR isnít for decoration. Hehehehe...

You can still get the 5 to be a really solid shooter, but it wonít catch the M14 no matter what you do. The M14 is harder to manoeuvre. Itís apples vs. oranges. Again, it comes down to what you like and makes you happy. Both guns are exceptional.


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Yep! That is a hard choice...especially for a Swede! Hahahaha. The 5 is a really nice gun and I donít envy your decision...but, if youíre basing it on range, the M14 will outgun the 5...and has the potential to way outshoot it. The 3-9x 40 scope on my EBR isnít for decoration. Hehehehe...

You can still get the 5 to be a really solid shooter, but it wonít catch the M14 no matter what you do. The M14 is harder to manoeuvre. Itís apples vs. oranges. Again, it comes down to what you like and makes you happy. Both guns are exceptional.


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Oke thank you very much. Could you explain why an M130 spring won't be needed, I thought that increasing the fps, helps with range because you can use heavier BB's and they would be harder dodge. In my krytac I use an M120 or M130 using 0.28 BB's I could come shoot pretty far and still hit targets. And the M14 comes with an M110 spring right?
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I still have the 110 spring in my M14. Long barrels allow more time for the BB to accelerate and naturally increase FPS without the big spring. My M14 fires at 405 FPS and I use .3ís with it. Now mine is NOT stock..not even close. Hahahaha. The r hop is a huge part of the range and accuracy. But there are hops that will still get things on target. If your rifle is firing 400-ish FPS, you can fire .3ís with no issue. That will increase range as well and stay in target better than a .28.

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I still have the 110 spring in my M14. Long barrels allow more time for the BB to accelerate and naturally increase FPS without the big spring. My M14 fires at 405 FPS and I use .3ís with it. Now mine is NOT stock..not even close. Hahahaha. The r hop is a huge part of the range and accuracy. But there are hops that will still get things on target. If your rifle is firing 400-ish FPS, you can fire .3ís with no issue. That will increase range as well and stay in target better than a .28.

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Well I am not sure, I don't have a range finder :), still I believe that with my krytac I did hit things between 20 to 35m away? More then that would be nice. Also I have no idea how to R-hop. Neither could I find any info on the G&G M14 inner barrel. Not sure if it needs a better barrel and rubber or not. Also because I am playing on an forest map, and fps rules are nice in sweden changing the spring doesn't really matter
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Oh man! Will you be pleasantly surprised!!! Both rifles come with a factory tight bore barrel. 6.04 I believe. Plenty good. A stock range of 50-60m should be realistic for both guns. If you want to go more than that, a simple upgrade to a 6.03 barrel and a Maple Leaf bucking will get you a little more. No need to tweak the gear box. The only time you need to consider serious work is if you want to pass the 80-90m mark. Yes, it's possible.
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Oh man! Will you be pleasantly surprised!!! Both rifles come with a factory tight bore barrel. 6.04 I believe. Plenty good. A stock range of 50-60m should be realistic for both guns. If you want to go more than that, a simple upgrade to a 6.03 barrel and a Maple Leaf bucking will get you a little more. No need to tweak the gear box. The only time you need to consider serious work is if you want to pass the 80-90m mark. Yes, it's possible.
To be honest I have no clue what the range was, for my feeling it was pretty far but I have no idea what a normal range is for an standard AEG. So if I am going to buy the M14, what upgrades whould I need/do? And do you think switching out the barrel to a tighter one help?
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A typical AEG usually fires out to 50m or so. A slightly modified one about 60-70. In any case, when I come across a new Ďprojectí (I only buy guns people donít want anymore), I test it before doing anything to get a performance baseline. Then I can decide what I should or shouldnít based on that information.

If youíre buying either gun new (as I said, theyíre both good and have great potential), I would try it stock. Get a feel for it, then decide if it needs to be improved. Sometimes theyíre perfect just the way they are depending on the game. :)


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Old 04-29-2019, 06:09 AM   #11
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A typical AEG can send a bb up to 50m, doesn't imply the bb goes to where you're aiming tho... But I never fired a >400 euro out of the box AEG so can't say all AEGs.
G-sepc has a 300mm barrel yet can be accurate at long range so the AK5 can be made to have great range. However the M14 could reach the same easier.
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A typical AEG can send a bb up to 50m, doesn't imply the bb goes to where you're aiming tho... But I never fired a >400 euro out of the box AEG so can't say all AEGs.
G-sepc has a 300mm barrel yet can be accurate at long range so the AK5 can be made to have great range. However the M14 could reach the same easier.
Agreed, both these rifles have great potential. The GK5C is still in our house (my son's gun now) and it really, really performs well. The M14? Slightly better...only because I made it that way. No matter what, I would honestly say the M14 can outrange the GK5C. But, the GK5C is a simpler and more common gearbox (less expensive to modify), a better rate of fire, and a more direct and responsive trigger setup.

It just depends what you like on any given day.
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Agreed, both these rifles have great potential. The GK5C is still in our house (my son's gun now) and it really, really performs well. The M14? Slightly better...only because I made it that way. No matter what, I would honestly say the M14 can outrange the GK5C. But, the GK5C is a simpler and more common gearbox (less expensive to modify), a better rate of fire, and a more direct and responsive trigger setup.

It just depends what you like on any given day.
Got the M14, tried it at the shop that sold it. Should be arriving next month. I quess I have start lifting weights nows :)
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That's right, young man! Get those muscles working...the M14 is not for the light hearted.
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That's right, young man! Get those muscles working...the M14 is not for the light hearted.
Anyway if I decide that I want to upgrade the spring, which type spring fit? I did hear that normal AEG 130 or 150 springs don't work. Do you know anything about that?
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