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Old 07-24-2016, 08:56 AM   #1
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WE Tech M14 v.s. WE SVD Question

Hi gents, I have been looking around the web and in the forums, but I simply could not find a side by side comparison between both WE Tech M14 and WE Tech Dragunov. I was thinking of getting the former or the latter depending on which ever has the greatest accuracy in the field. If any one of you out there have both or one of these, please post here as to which is best out of the box in terms of performance, groupings and longevity. (Mods, if I posted in the wrong discussion boards, kindly move this thread ).

So, let's just keep this in terms of out of the box. Inner barrel length, weight, and groupings, and say aftermarket parts.

Thanks a bunch. Cheers.
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Old 07-25-2016, 01:42 PM   #2
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I have a SVD and its great and has better longevity than the M14 just check the RAT pieces to have a notion.

In concern of performance i think the M14 its better, SVD produces a lot of fps inconsistency maybe due to the long inner barrel/long travel bolt
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Old 07-25-2016, 02:08 PM   #3
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Thanks Five Seven. That is really great feedback. That would narrow down my options. Do you have a weight comparison on both? I held the WE Tech M14, and it was pretty hefty. I have not gotten a chance to get my hands on a SVD yet.

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Old 07-25-2016, 06:00 PM   #4
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i cant describe the weight, i like them heavy like the RS versions. But i can say it is a well balance gun even with the PSO scope, the version i have is the polymer, dont know how is the weight balance in the wood version and in the steel receiver version.
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Old 07-25-2016, 07:05 PM   #5
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Awesome! I got a good deal coming from a local shop, they have the polymer version SVD, so I guess I'll get that before I get my hands on a M14. Too bad the PSO scope is out of stock.

What I really like in the M14 is the sound that the charging handle makes when you rack it up. :) well I guess that is just me.
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Old 07-26-2016, 06:26 AM   #6
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I have a WE M14 rifle. I've added the RaTec trigger which is a must do first change. Then you can try various hopup buckings. I did the r hop. It took several trys before I got it to work. I also have the RaTec tight bore barrel. The 500 fps nozzle really hopped up the fps. I'm right at 490 at 85 deg with propane.
I do have a Npas but have not used it.

I removed the select fire link so my gun is semi only. Removing this part allows quick and easy hopup adjustments. I have several barrel, bucking and hopup assemblies so it is easy to change them out.

My eyes are messed up a little so I have to use a scope. 3-9 X 40 with a long eye relief works for me and illuminated.

For game play I have 8 mags converted to 30 rnds each. The gun is realistic weight as are the mags so be aware you have 10 pounds of mags to lug around plus an11 pound rifle. I have a KWA ATP pistol for close in.

I have two RaTec speed loaders for each mag loaded with 15 rnds each. Loading with these prevents over filling the mags.

For spare parts I have at least two of everything that breaks or wears out.

The gun will shoot .40 100 yds but you have to use Kentucky Windage to hit anything. The extreme accuracy range is 70-75 yds. I can hit a man size target pretty easy at this range. But much easier at 60-65 yds. Most of the fields here are this is from one corner to the other. I like to dig in and fire 2-3 shots at a time. Bare skin hits usually produce cuss words. Haha

The gun breaks down pretty easy once you do it a few times. It's very important to get the outer barrel seated properly there is a lot of clearance here so I used some .001 brass shim stock to make a near "0" fir. A longer set screw with a jam nut keeps this tight.

I've shot over 10k rnds through this rifle and it is just fun to shoot. In game play it is pretty intimidating to hear this and get hit.

Currently I'm converting to HPA as the propane temperature is just too hard to manage.
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Old 07-26-2016, 02:33 PM   #7
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bentwings, thank you for sharing that. That is awesome. I hardly took into account of the weight of the magazines, darn. But good stuff. Your 70 - 75 yard range is incredible. Did you change the inner barrel into a maple leaf to produce good groupings?

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Old 07-26-2016, 09:24 PM   #8
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No, I have one Maple leaf 70 deg. that I haven't tried. After I did the r hop I just used some generic thing. You have to cut the nub off anyway so it didn't matter.

Yeah the charge handle is cool when you are being chrono checked. I like to charge it then rip off three quick shots. It's pretty intimidating I guess. I've heard guys say "I wanna be on his team, don't want that gun pointing at me"
I usually put on a Clint Eastwood scowl as I'm a bit older than most, kinda play the part. Haha

The biggest problem I have is with the heavier bb's. They seem softer so they can get damaged when loading them. It takes quite a bit of force to use the speed loaders and if you don't get lined up perfectly you can chip or mar the bb.
Then you get real funky performance.

I have very carefully trimmed a little out of the feed lip to correct this but it is really easy to mess one up. Maybe that's why Evike has them and is out of stock occasionally.

I'm working on the HPA conversion. I think I'll try and get a real steel stock and carve it out for the air tank and regulator. It will replace the weighted stock, be a bit lighter but maintain the balance.
I just haven't had time to finish it.

I'll try and post up some targets next time I get out shooting.

This gun handles much like the "real steel" . If I remember I carried 20 mags on a belt left over from the Browning Automatic Rifle. B.A.R. It was called a BAR belt. We also stuffed pockets with ammo....loose change we called it. It was quite a load.
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Old 07-27-2016, 01:35 AM   #9
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Man your on the money with that charging handle!!!

You are right with the BB's these days, they are soft and crumble. Seems there are expiry with them. Check Evike. They have G&G Airsoft Precision 6mm Airsoft BBs - 0.25g White (5600 rounds) or the G&G Airsoft Precision 6mm Airsoft BBs - 0.28g White (2700). That should do the trick.

I usually use Golden Ball or G&G if I'm lucky to get them.

Wow, you got a B.A.R.!!! Sweet!!!

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Old 07-27-2016, 03:03 PM   #10
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I can't remember where but I read somewhere that the RA-Tech NPAS kit fits the We-Tech SVD and helps consistency and to reduce the FPS so you can actually use it at fields. Maybe somebody knows more?
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Old 07-27-2016, 05:00 PM   #11
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I saw that too in somewhere, but in the RA Tech website there were no indication if it was compatible to the SVD. They say they could have it installed in a WE "PDW" "M14" "G39C " "SCAR", and it is compatible on an Open Bolt system. No idea if this were made for SVD's. But good catch philbegas.

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Old 07-27-2016, 11:06 PM   #12
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Sorry if I miss led you, I don't have a B.A.R. It pre dates me just a little. The ammo belt was something the guys that packed one came up with. I've never seen the same thing we had with the M 14. There is a BAR belt at some of the surplus military stores but it's not the same. It's been a long time, my memory is dim or I try to forget. Haha

I use .30 Valken as that's what's available here. They are pretty hard and seem clean. The .36 and 41. Are pretty soft. They work ok if not damaged loading them. They are a greenish color and are hard to see. I like this but you have to know where your rifle shoots. That's why I shoot it a lot.

Funny thing my KWA ATP pistol shoots more accurate out to 20 yds than my Real steel (plastic) Glock 17.
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Old 07-28-2016, 01:14 AM   #13
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Actually I figured it out. I emailed RA-Tech to ask but I got an unhelpful response LOL:

Hello,
Yes, we do have a NPAS kit for WE and it is compatible for most WE rifles.
Best Regards,
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RA-TECH/ AST sales

So it's a question of whether or not the WE-TECH Svd is open bolt. I don't know jack about open vs closed bolt but maybe if you email we tech or ra tech and ask they can give you a better answer?
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Old 07-28-2016, 09:29 AM   #14
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Review: WE ACE-VD / SVDGruppa L

little help maybe.... srcoll down to the end of review. Cheers
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Old 07-28-2016, 07:01 PM   #15
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I got an Npas from Evike pretty easy. It's still in the bag as I have not really needed it. To use it in the WE M 14 you will need the jointed adjusting tool. I don't see this on Evike very often. Without this tool it will be darn near impossible to adjust it without disassembling the gun. It only takes 5 minutes but it's easy to lose a screw or the bolt stop spring.

You may have to search other sites for the tool.

The think may be able to change adjustment as you use it too. There is a way to restrict the air with plastic discs but I have not tried this either.

The stock gun shouldn't go over 400 fps with .20 if you have full auto enabled. I think the extra bit of mechanical drag causes more gas to be used for the bolt. I removed the selector bar and installed a tight bore barrel so I can't say for sure but I was able to go over 400 fps then.
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