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Old 07-22-2019, 02:17 PM   #16
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Being a new owner of one of these, figured I'd post a few observations I've had while getting this thing field ready.

1: Clean it, Clean is like you have never cleaned anything before. Mine was filled with black gun oil even inside the bolt. It was so bad you'd think that they just dunked the whole thing into a vat of oil so disassemble everything and clean it.

2: There is at least 2 versions of this gun, one that is power adjustable and one that isn't. The power adjustable version has a set screw in front of the power adjustment wheel holding it in place, the other has a pin hammed in locking the wheel in place.
Adjusting the power of the locked version is possible, but you need to disassemble the bolt and use a flathead screwdriver and quite a lot of force to turn the wheel.

3. Once you've fired a few hundred shots, disassemble the gun and check the bucking, most likely you missed some gunk somewhere in the gun and the bucking and barrel will be smudged in black oil residue, so clean it again XD

This might be obvious for veterans on here, but figured I'd warn the people new to BASR's
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Old 07-22-2019, 05:35 PM   #17
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What´s your impressions so far? what bbs weight you´re using?
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Old 07-22-2019, 07:19 PM   #18
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2: There is at least 2 versions of this gun, one that is power adjustable and one that isn't. The power adjustable version has a set screw in front of the power adjustment wheel holding it in place, the other has a pin hammed in locking the wheel in place.
Adjusting the power of the locked version is possible, but you need to disassemble the bolt and use a flathead screwdriver and quite a lot of force to turn the wheel.
Damn, didn't knew they had a locked version. Maybe you can drill the pin out, and maybe even put a new set screw in (threading the hole if necessary)
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Old 07-22-2019, 10:28 PM   #19
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What´s your impressions so far? what bbs weight you´re using?
I haven't fielded it yet due to work, and weathers been too cold and windy to get it dialed in, in power and hop. but from what I've shot it so far I'm quite impressed. I'm not getting the famed consistency yet, but I've only shot about 400 rounds though it with 4 magazines, I can see it getting better so it will just be a matter of time till it's worn in.
I'm currently using .43g bb's but I'm considering going heavier if I can find a good brand that's sold nearby and isn't constantly out of stock.
I also need to find a good supply of high pressure gas, MAPP/PRO is quite expensive (Cheapest I've found so far is 27$ for a 400g bottle) and hard to find here i Denmark and due to the whole hazards material thing it can be a pain to get it shipped in from abroad.
Currently using Abbeys Brut sniper gas. asked them about the pressure rating of this gas, but the guy that knows is apparently on vacation.


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Damn, didn't knew they had a locked version. Maybe you can drill the pin out, and maybe even put a new set screw in (threading the hole if necessary)
Nor did I before I wanted to turn up the power a bit, I've considered drilling out the pin. But I'm considering leaving it, if I can dial in the power at the average temperature (I'm going for 2.9 Joules) it's well under the max for BASR's which is 4 Joules any fluctuation in power due to temperature variation should be able to be countered by tuning the hop. and the pin will most definitely keep the power wheel rock steady.

Right now I'm in the "if it isn't broken, don't fix it" part of getting the gun ready. If I can work around it without it having negative consequences then I won't attempt to fix it.
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Old 07-30-2019, 11:03 AM   #20
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So, I've so far put little over 200 BB's though each of my 4 magazines.
but I'm still not getting the famed consistence of this rifle. the best of the mags if you disregard the first shot has a variance from first to last of 18.5 fps and the worst 35.7 fps.
the screw for the power adjustment is nearly all the way in which is nearly the lowest power if I remember right?. (Haven't fiddled with it much since the locked version is nasty to adjust)
I've switched the stock barrel for a 590mm ML CJ and the bucking to an autobot 75.
Teflon taped the bucking.
Disassembled and cleaned the valves on each mag and lubricated moving parts.
Shimmed the hop up arm


Am I missing something? or does it require more wearing in?

Thank you in advance
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Old 07-30-2019, 11:40 AM   #21
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which gas are you using?
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Old 07-30-2019, 02:11 PM   #22
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Abbey brut sniper gas.
Had to order the propane adapter from abroad, so can't use mapp/pro till it gets here.
But only shooting at 394 til .43g BB's.

Your thinking that the pressure of the gas isn't high enough to get the consistency?
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Old 07-30-2019, 04:18 PM   #23
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Maybe the gas is not be high pressure enough, or maybe it's getting lube into the bucking / barrel.
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Old 07-31-2019, 12:03 AM   #24
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The brut sniper gas is a dry gas, so no lubrication there. also checked bucking few days ago before making the post 200 shot fps test.

barrel is clean and bone dry.
But cleaned the barrel with isopropyl alcohol and soft cloth and cleaned the bucking with the same and a Q-tip to remove any grime from the inside anyway just to be sure pre test.
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Old 07-31-2019, 02:56 PM   #25
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well, guess you'll have to try with MapPro when you get it, and if that fails try to get the pin that locks the screw out and play around with it until you find a consistent position.

How do you find the accuracy and range so far?

Yesterday a friend that runs a VFC M40A5 uploaded a very informal video just as a proof for another friend that didn't believed us...

4/4 hits at a quite small plate... at 96 meters (100 yards)
https://www.facebook.com/cobre.tozzi...type=3&theater
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Old 07-31-2019, 10:29 PM   #26
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Yea guess there's nothing else for it. Was hoping I could avoid the power tools, always a chance of stuff going wrong when you use those XD
As a hint for a good starting position how far out do you have your power adjustment screw?

haven't taken that many aimed shots, most were just into a padded box, since I used a bunch of .36g BB's that I'm not using anymore just to wear in the gun.
I have taken a few pot shots at the neighbors garage though hehe
Think it's about 60-70 meters away. and they were flying dead straight, except for a few flyers now and then.
I'd say that despite the lowish power, it's doing good so far, I'll see how it does once I've modded the power adjustment.
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Old 08-05-2019, 08:51 AM   #27
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Did anyone had feeding issues? If i dont push the magazine up while i cicle the bolt it doesnt feed the bbs...
By the way... I've bought a maple leaf bucking, the Stock barrel needs to be upgrade or its good enough?
Many thanks!!!
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Old 08-10-2019, 02:15 AM   #28
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Did anyone had feeding issues? If i dont push the magazine up while i cicle the bolt it doesnt feed the bbs...
By the way... I've bought a maple leaf bucking, the Stock barrel needs to be upgrade or its good enough?
Many thanks!!!
I have 4 mags and never had a feeding issue.
Did it always have this issue or only after you put in the new bucking?

I'd probably check if the internal magazine is seated all the way in. The top rear edge of the mag where the flow valve and the top front where the bb's feed is has to be flush with the casing.
And check if the little wedge at the back which locks the mag in is damaged of malformed.


I never tested the stock barrel because stock barrels are usually not that good.
I personally got a 590mm maple leaf crazy jet barrel (it's labled as being made for his rifle). It sticks out of the outer barrel by about 38mm but easily fits inside the flash hider.


On a personal progress note, still haven't received the propane adapter. But fiddling with the power adjustment has decreased the fps inconsistency of the most inconsistent mag from 35.7 fps to 10fps max-min. still a little bit to go, but getting close
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Old 08-11-2019, 04:33 PM   #29
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I just came back from Asgard Deadlock milsim in Poland (1000 players, 2 days of consistent operation) and can only say “WOW”. Everyone who didn’t know the rifle could not believe how far I was able to shoot with 0.46 and 0.48. I’ve put Maple Leaf 600mm inner barrel and the black Autobot bucking as the pink one was overhopping with the hop up arm removed. I did use the C clip though (should I not?). The only problem I got is that the bb goes left after around 70-80 meter so I had to tilt the rifle right around 15 degrees - did anyone have this issue? Other than that I was able to outshoot DMRs which proves the point of using BASR on a milsim.

On a side note: release valve pin on the mag may come loose - need to be screwed in until turns with more force - if it unscrews to much you will not put the mag in and it will potentially break when forcing into the rifle. Mapp Pro works good but over 25C it may become impossible or hard for the hammer to open the valve due to increased pressure - this causes FPS variation. I even used stronger springs on the hammer (WII Tech upgrade) but it did not help much so don’t use mapp pro when it’s too hot. I’m getting over 600fps with the adj screw 3/4 backed on Puff Dino 14bar green gas (no lube version).

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Old 08-11-2019, 11:35 PM   #30
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I’ve put Maple Leaf 600mm inner barrel and the black Autobot bucking as the pink one was overhopping with the hop up arm removed.
I thought I was seeing this as well, bought some BLS .50g BB's to test with once I get the consistency dialed in. But weathers been crap here so haven't been able to do much testing.

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Mapp Pro works good but over 25C it may become impossible or hard for the hammer to open the valve due to increased pressure - this causes FPS variation. I even used stronger springs on the hammer (WII Tech upgrade) but it did not help much so don’t use mapp pro when it’s too hot. I’m getting over 600fps with the adj screw 3/4 backed on Puff Dino 14bar green gas
With Brut sniper gas I'm getting 615fps with .2g/ 3.52 Joules with the adjuster about half way, perhaps I should try some lower pressure gas just to see if that might fix some of the issues. But again weathers been crap here, so gotta wait till it hopefully clears up a bit.
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