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Old 09-11-2020, 05:50 AM   #1
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SRS new barrel advice

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After hearing my current barrel/set up being trashed so much I can't help but feel that I could possible be getting better range/accuracy with another set up.



I have the 20" SRS A1 Sport pull bolt with:
510mm TNT barrel
Fast Hop
TNT Prowler Nub
TNT Studio TR bucking.


I am looking to do this without having to spend over £100 as I can't really justify it right now.

I was looking to moving towards:
Fast Hop
Maple Leaf 510mm 6,02 AEG Precision Barrel
Maple Leaf SRS Hot Shot Bucking 70 Degree
Maple Leaf Omega Nub



Does anyone have a similar set up/see anything wrong with the above or have any better ideas for what I could go for?
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Old 09-11-2020, 07:07 AM   #2
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The Hot Shot bucking is designed specifically for their Crazy Jet Barrel (which is VSR cut) in an AEG system. Kinda funky, and I've heard it leaks like a sieve.
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Old 09-11-2020, 07:11 AM   #3
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I still think you can use a stock barrel, throw a faceless rhop patch in it and it will be just as accurate as an expensive pdi or whatever other barrel.

The srs crowd that I read from on Facebook swears by 6.05, but I went with a 6.01. Probably no difference there either. Your setup should work great! As long as you have a nicely paired bucking and nub. Careful with the stalker nubs, as I learned the hard way that there was too much hop on the lowest setting with the prowler. Someone told me about the low profile prowler and now she works great! There’s also been hype about the chub nub too!!

I say stock barrel or a pdi though. Take that as you want, coming my my little srs experience lol.
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I follow some FB groups as well. It's the LAST place ANYONE should go for build advice.

Too many neck-beards who swear by their overpriced set ups being sooooo much better than anything else just so they don't feel bad about themselves.
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Old 09-11-2020, 10:02 AM   #5
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Lambda barrel
Bucking of choice, Maple Leaf MR-hop and Super AEG are good.
MAXX chamber
And that's it, roughly $100, and very good performance and adjustability
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Old 09-11-2020, 12:47 PM   #6
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Lambda barrel
Bucking of choice, Maple Leaf MR-hop and Super AEG are good.
MAXX chamber
And that's it, roughly $100, and very good performance and adjustability

I was looking at some Lambda barrels just wasn't sure on the quality of them. I can get a Lambda Evo or for a little more a Lambda five unsure if there's much of a difference.



For the Maple Leaf MR hop are they not for un-bridged barrels would it still work well with a bridged barrel as I think SRS barrels usually are.
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Old 09-11-2020, 01:09 PM   #7
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I was looking at some Lambda barrels just wasn't sure on the quality of them. I can get a Lambda Evo or for a little more a Lambda five unsure if there's much of a difference.


For the Maple Leaf MR hop are they not for un-bridged barrels would it still work well with a bridged barrel as I think SRS barrels usually are.
I suggest a Lambda 6.0X???mm barrel in the closed window variation as all Maple Leaf AEG bucking are meant for that window, and you can R-hop it with ease.
If you decide to R-hop, Lambda is one of the best due to the window geometry, and you can buy pre-cut patches on Skirmshop and Amazon.
For Amazon, search ElvishTac and they should be there.

From my personal experience, R-hop is a little better than Maple Leaf and Maple Leaf is much better than stock.
My opinion, I had my friend install a barrel with each in my gun once and I shot it and guessed without him telling me.
I guessed right on all 3 of course, bit Maple Leaf and mid-grade R-hop were very close in trajectory patterns and group size.
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Old 09-11-2020, 01:22 PM   #8
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Btw, 6.05vs6.01 is stupid if you are using quality BBs and the same brand barrel.
6.01 is better imo, as less air is wasted, therefore you can use a shorter barrel to achieve similar FPS to a longer 6.05.
You will also need less of a spring to get your Joule/FPS goal with a 6.01, so a little bit more quiet than a 6.05 due to less impact vibrations from a piston.
As for weighted pistons/joule creep, its mainly bullshit there's not really any "free power", just more inefficiency than a light-medium piston and a longer/tighter barrel.

Where 6.05 and beyond shines is when firing shit BBs as they tend to be more accurate out of a wider barrel.
Mainly for SAW type guns and anything with lots of low- medium quality ammo going through it.
Also, those cheaper BBs tend to get your barrels dirty faster and wider barrels can spare some inner diameter of it gets waxy shit or stuff building up inside where a 6.01 would be more dirty and innacurate.
The thing with wider barrels is that it is easier to get away with a worse bore finish as BBs touch the inside less in theory, so it usually is about even.
That being said, the longest shots are usually taken with a 5.98 barrel, but that's too tight for most people including me imo.
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As for weighted pistons/joule creep, its mainly bullshit there's not really any "free power", just more inefficiency than a light-medium piston and a longer/tighter barrel.
Not always the case. But mostly.
The best example where adding weight will increase fps is in a very high powered AEG. If you have a very big spring in an AEG and an extra light piston, you most likely be losing some energy. By adding weight to the piston, it can increase fps. The reason being is that with such a big spring, it causes a pressure spike and this spike pushes past the bucking causing an air leak and making the rifle less efficient. More weight on the piston, slows down this initial spike and so can increase efficiency.
This also happens in bolt actions but less due to the bucking being so well wrapped around the air nozzle. But as the spring becomes bigger, the more the likely hood of it happening. Also it is more likely to happen if your air nozzle and bucking are not the best match
This here was posted by 1Tonne enterprise. :)
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Not always the case. But mostly.
The best example where adding weight will increase fps is in a very high powered AEG. If you have a very big spring in an AEG and an extra light piston, you most likely be losing some energy. By adding weight to the piston, it can increase fps. The reason being is that with such a big spring, it causes a pressure spike and this spike pushes past the bucking causing an air leak and making the rifle less efficient. More weight on the piston, slows down this initial spike and so can increase efficiency.
This also happens in bolt actions but less due to the bucking being so well wrapped around the air nozzle. But as the spring becomes bigger, the more the likely hood of it happening. Also it is more likely to happen if your air nozzle and bucking are not the best match
This here was posted by 1Tonne enterprise. :)
That's why I said"mainly bullshit" lol.
Yeah, I understand that under certain circumstances joule creep with spring based systems Is real, but it mainly seems to be hype that's not true, or usually air leaks being bypassed.
I do believe in it, but I also believe there is such a thing as the ideal piston weight for a certain BB/setup due to that spike being lowered some.
I wouldn't encourage anyone buy a WASP or VMP though, that is, if they are saying that they want extra energy.
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I follow some FB groups as well. It's the LAST place ANYONE should go for build advice.

Too many neck-beards who swear by their overpriced set ups being sooooo much better than anything else just so they don't feel bad about themselves.
Lmao neck beards. You couldn’t be more ACCURATE my friend lol. One thing I hate specifically about Facebook groups is when people are undeniably COCKY. Especially considering they are usually grown adults being rude over toy guns.
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