HI! And Budget Bar 10 build

Dallas5534 · Nov 19, 2018

I'm new to the forum, but only comment about the build ^^
tell me what you think
https://gyazo.com/00c64d736cfccc3e04e74ee6193aca56

https://gyazo.com/b92d4a84f62be2f0bbd42c7ecf24658a
Bar 10 g-spec -
SPEED airsoft sears (this is the main thing I'm worried about, tell me if you have had any experience with these how good they are) or JJ trigger box
AA spring guide
autobot bucking 70
sorbo pad
maple leaf concave nub -
AA m150 spring -
vsr 10 400mm AA barrel -

I am using matrix .32 bio bbs bc they are cheapo

- = I own these

What Sears would you guys recommend? I would get a zero trigger but those are expensive (new piston and new trigger box)

New list:
ML hop up arm
ML autobot bucking 70 degree
400mm - 430mm AA barrel
sorboed stock piston

JJ trigger set
maybe a Laylax piston

also dont forget DIY mods like teflon and suppressor/stock foam. I'm not going to cut the airbrake though.

Dimitri MdP · Nov 19, 2018

Can't help with the sears, but if you're gonna run the OEM hop chamber, you need to change the ML nub for ML concave arm. To run the nub on a VSR-10 type you need the Action Army hop chamber.

Dallas5534 · Nov 19, 2018

Can I just get a different hop up arm? Also is it better to do TDC or just to get the AA chamber, it seems much better to just get the new chamber

Dallas5534 · Nov 21, 2018

ok, so I was also thinking about flat hopping and tdc. Would I need to replace the barrel for an AEG barrel or can I use an unbridged barrel?

Thenoobatsniping · Nov 22, 2018

You can get the jj trigger for $42 and mag vsr piston for around $20, and ml bucking and nub combo is a great combo I wouldn’t change it.

Dallas5534 · Nov 23, 2018

I'll get the ML Autobot 70, the nub, and the arm as above ^

But I was also thinking about doing a flat hop mod, should I still get the autobot bucking for that?

I want to keep stock piston, for the airbrake (add sorbo) I'll need to change it to a 90 degree I think
JJ trigger seems awesome
I have a cut m150
do I need an AA spring guide??
Ill also put that 400mm AA barrel in when I get the parts

ALSO do you guys think stock Bar 10 nozzle is good for autobot bucking or what would you recommend?

Dimitri MdP · Nov 23, 2018

Dallas5534 said:
I'll get the ML Autobot 70, the nub, and the arm as above ^

Again, no need for nubs with the OEM hop arm (or with the Maple Leaf hop arm, it has a built-in "nub").

As for the bucking, Autobot without the metal ring is OK for the OEM nozzle.

Maple Leaf hop arm + ML bucking is superior to flat hops, so just toss in the bucking as is

Dallas5534 · Nov 23, 2018

Also, If I do a Flat hop mod what bbs (bio bbs) would you guys recommend, I'd prefer to buy from AirsoftAtlanta.com

Update:
sorbo - 4
homemade eraser flat nubs
ML hop up arm - 18
ML hop up bucking - 9.5
AA spring guide (do I need it?) nope Im ditching it
JJ Trigger box - 44

90 with spring guide
70 without

Thenoobatsniping · Nov 23, 2018

If you get the ml setup you don't need to flat hop, you also don't need the guide.
If you get the jj trigger You will need a 90 degree piston though. Any bls rebranded bb is good, so hpa, asg, nov etc. what FPS are you trying to get?
Also check out the cylinder:barrel ratio guide
https://www.airsoftsniperforum.com/...perforum.com/32-general-sniper-talk/14303-cylinder-barrel-ratios-explained.html

Plazmaburn · Nov 23, 2018

If you are using the stock hop chamber, you will need the ML arm and not the nub. You can forget the flat nubs too. Not needed when using the ML arm.

Dallas5534 · Nov 24, 2018

At my field you can either run up to 475 fps with a MED of 50ft
or 475 - 550 at an MED of 100ft
I'd prefer the shorter distances so probably around 470fps

I bought the arm and the bucking, they are doing very well on the 400mm AA barrel!
I just ordered the JJ trigger set. (will update on this, an employee at AirsoftAtlanta was very interested in its results)

I'll be modding my piston to be a 90 degree, and I have a cut m150 (type 96 so it was too long) spring ready as well.
I heard with the laylax piston you can change the airbrake length, does anyone have experience with those? Or what Airbrake piston would you chose?

ALSO I really want a TM mk23 but I can't find one, where can I get one? Currently I have a silenced KJW mk1 and its ok but not too impressive. (hey you get what you pay for I guess, they are only 40 bucks haha, I want a new pistol because the mk1 gets air bubbles, low mag capacity, and the accuracy isn't stellar, the sound is pretty good though after pvc silencer mod)

you guys are being a world of help, this forum is the best

Plazmaburn · Nov 24, 2018

Pick your poison.

https://www.airsoftglobal.com/shop/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=51_55&products_id=321

https://www.tokyo-model.com.hk/shop/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=58&products_id=4416

Dallas5534 · Nov 24, 2018

Thanks! gonna have to save up though haha

Dallas5534 · Nov 25, 2018

Does anyone know if I should increase the weight of my piston? I saw this thread and was very interested (https://www.airsoftsniperforum.com/41-vsr-rifles/37234-piston-weight-optimizing.html)

1tonne · Nov 25, 2018

Adding weight will slow your piston speed down giving you less energy.
Is that what you want?
What effect did you want the weight to do?

SP3CT3R · Nov 26, 2018

Not always, at least not in AEG's. In AEG's adding piston weight generally increases energy.

Dallas5534 · Nov 26, 2018

hmm, just chronoed at field and got 330, what should I do?
Still have airbrake, stock spring, and cylinder head hasn't been lathed out.

1tonne · Nov 26, 2018

Get rid of the air brake.

Dallas5534 · Nov 26, 2018

more weight = more inertia, so adding weight will make it harder to move but also harder to stop

1tonne · Nov 27, 2018

It does have more inertia because of more weight but the speed of the piston will still be slower and so therefore it will give less fps. It can't have more fps if the piston is moving slower.

Sp3CT3R, how would this happen? My head can't figure that one out. (Be cool to learn something new)

Dallas5534 · Nov 29, 2018

Ok, just sanded out the inside of the cylinder head, its louder, but I went up to 380 fps, still not good, How much fps will I gain from spring(probably M150 but unsure)? How much from cutting airbrake?

also has anyone done LRB mod? It seems cool, but Idk if you drill into the barrel or you just make the screw press and bend it down (I would think drilling/tapping the barrel would be better because you can adjust it)

HI! And Budget Bar 10 build

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