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Masada 01-15-2020 05:49 PM

VSR Ultimate complete build
 
So mwrose777 wanted me to post the pics of his build after we finished getting it together today. I'll let him post the parts list for those that are interested (though obviously it's based on my one-piece receiver).

https://i.imgur.com/3OHP1cB.jpg

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mwrose777 01-15-2020 06:01 PM

I couldn’t be more happier with it. I said I’d never go back to a VSR, until Masada had to go and create these awesome receivers!

Parts list:


VSR Ultimate reviver set
VSR Ultimate scope rail
VSR Ultimate LRB end cap
Maple leaf stock, tan
Springer custom trigger
Maple lead crazy jet barrel, 370mm
Maple leaf wonder bucking
Maple leaf nub
Action army hop up chamber
Laylax bolt handle set
Maple leaf hop up chamber block
Action army twisted Cylinder set
Action army Barrel spacers
Lambda VSR-B spring
Wasp piston set
Vortex medium scope mounts
Vortex Crossfire II 4-16x50 scope

whalesmash 01-15-2020 06:12 PM

I know I've said that I find hunter style rifles really boring but... I've gotta hand it to you, it looks great.

Sodium 01-15-2020 06:16 PM

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Well, now I feel obligated to post my VSR-U here too. Nice work Masada!

Edgi 370mm w/ modify X-range bucking
AA hopup chamber
SAP Piston
Laylax cyl and trigger
Trophy hunting rifle scope

It's a fun gun 🙂

Corriander 01-15-2020 08:28 PM

I’ll be posting the four I’m building once they get underway. All are going to be built with the same spec but I have a lot of parts to make to get them finished.

The stocks are going to be the Maple Leaf with two black, one green and one tan.

The AA chambers already arrived.

PDI HD Bore up cylinders are being ordered.

Vortex Crossfire II 4-12x50 scopes are being ordered.

Springer v9.2 S-Triggers have been ordered.

Pistons will be ~150g+ out of 303 stainless since all are joule creeping 0.69g builds.

Springs not yet determined.

Barrels will be 6.01 EdGi, but length has yet to be determined. I’ll be sacrificing a barrel to dial in optimal length and crown taper, then using a monolith core to both stabilize the inner barrel and provide controlled diffusion.

Hop chambers will be modified for brass flat nubs. I use them in my other 0.69g platforms and like how they perform with a proper r-hop.

The bolt handles will probably be unique for each, though I’m not sure yet what I’m going to do with them.

FMP Airsoft 01-15-2020 10:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Sodium (Post 414399)
Well, now I feel obligated to post my VSR-U here too. Nice work Masada!

Edgi 370mm w/ modify X-range bucking
AA hopup chamber
SAP Piston
Laylax cyl and trigger
Trophy hunting rifle scope

It's a fun gun 🙂

2 questions! 1.) How are you liking the X Range bucking? Does it outperform ML? 2.) I see several kinds of VSR builds, many times followed by another letter (VSR-X, VSR-U). Could someone explain what all the different types are? Thanks

Sodium 01-15-2020 10:51 PM

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Defintion: one piece receiver is a part where the outer barrel (part that holds the inner barrel) and receiver (the part that holds the cylinder) are one piece, instead of two pieces that you screw into one another. A one piece receiver/outer barrel eliminates any play between the pieces, and ensures a perfectly straight system.

Vsr-X is made by a guy named Careful. Its an extremely expensive, steel one piece outer vsr with the rail pinned in place. It was designed to fix all of the flaws of the vsr system. Google VSR-X for examples.

Vsr-R is a VSR with a one piece receiver/inner barrel made by a guy named Reliku. Reliku only makes the receiver. In the VSR-X, Careful puts together the whole thing, including a special stainless r-hop edgi barrel.
Search RelikuAirsoft on instagram for examples.

Vsr-U is a VSR with a one piece receiver/inner barrel made by a guy named Masada. In this thread, everyone here made VSR's with Masadas receiver, making them VSR-U's. Its really just about the receiver/making of the receiver. These are the most recent one piece receivers to be made/released, and I must say, they are REALLY nice. See this thread for examples.

Regarding the X-Range, I have done minimal testing, but I can confirm it is well outperforming my old autobot, which I didn't think performed very well to begin with. With the teflon tape mod, I am getting absolute 100% perfect airseal. All that said, I haven't compared it to the Mr-hop buckings yet. Also, I had an edgi barrel custom cut to fit the x-range bucking, as it requires a barrel window even wider than the CJ barrels.

Masada 01-16-2020 11:19 AM

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Originally Posted by FMP Airsoft (Post 414413)
2 questions! 1.) How are you liking the X Range bucking? Does it outperform ML? 2.) I see several kinds of VSR builds, many times followed by another letter (VSR-X, VSR-U). Could someone explain what all the different types are? Thanks

Basically what Sodium said. We all have different names for the receivers that we made to differentiate from regular VSR parts. In my case VSR-U stands for VSR Ultimate. The three that Sodium listed all still accomplish the main goal of integrating the barrel and receiver into one piece, increasing the stiffness of the gun significantly.

redmoon3580 01-16-2020 11:48 AM

It’ll be a minute before I get to building mine. I have a number of projects I’m working on that are ahead of it. I did grab an EdGi 290mm 5.98ID ported steel barrel for it, with the intention of doing an internally “””surpressed“”” HPA build, but I might try to make my own HPA system. Something with a three way valve and a reservoir seems pretty simple.

Masada 01-16-2020 05:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Corriander (Post 414407)
I値l be posting the four I知 building once they get underway. All are going to be built with the same spec but I have a lot of parts to make to get them finished.

The stocks are going to be the Maple Leaf with two black, one green and one tan.

The AA chambers already arrived.

PDI HD Bore up cylinders are being ordered.

Vortex Crossfire II 4-12x50 scopes are being ordered.

Springer v9.2 S-Triggers have been ordered.

Pistons will be ~150g+ out of 303 stainless since all are joule creeping 0.69g builds.

Springs not yet determined.

Barrels will be 6.01 EdGi, but length has yet to be determined. I値l be sacrificing a barrel to dial in optimal length and crown taper, then using a monolith core to both stabilize the inner barrel and provide controlled diffusion.

Hop chambers will be modified for brass flat nubs. I use them in my other 0.69g platforms and like how they perform with a proper r-hop.

The bolt handles will probably be unique for each, though I知 not sure yet what I知 going to do with them.

I'm really interested in how your builds end up performing. I've generally gone the route of off the shelf internals and have gotten good results so far, but I'm curious how much extra performance all your custom bits are getting. Hopefully it will be substantial.

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Originally Posted by redmoon3580 (Post 414439)
It値l be a minute before I get to building mine. I have a number of projects I知 working on that are ahead of it. I did grab an EdGi 290mm 5.98ID ported steel barrel for it, with the intention of doing an internally 灯敗urpressed灯 HPA build, but I might try to make my own HPA system. Something with a three way valve and a reservoir seems pretty simple.

The receivers already have the 1/4" hole necessary for the Wolverine kits so those should be a drop in fit if you were looking at going that route.

Corriander 01-16-2020 07:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Masada (Post 414447)
I'm really interested in how your builds end up performing. I've generally gone the route of off the shelf internals and have gotten good results so far, but I'm curious how much extra performance all your custom bits are getting. Hopefully it will be substantial.

Pretty much everything is being tuned around 0.69g optimization, built to the specs of the events we attend and the rules of our local field. That translates in to 3.6J/0.32g and 500FPS/0.20g.

If you think about that, it means I am building rifles based on a near flat FPS output for both a 0.32g and 0.20g bb yet dropping velocity for a higher mass BB to stay within the imposed energy limits since I don't want to be creeping a 0.45g out to near 5J and 0.69g beyond even that. It's doable, but a little tricky.

I have a lot of variables to work with (piston mass, spring strength, cylinder volume, barrel length, barrel taper) so some destructive testing will certainly be in order. Additionally, I already have a BAR10 that roughly accomplishes this in it's current configuration . . . even if it's 0.69g performance is closer to 4J instead of 3.6J.

Does this mean I will be destroying some brand spanking new high end shiny bits? Hell yeah I will. But at least that performance curve will be split 4 ways and absorbed at dealer cost.:yup:

redmoon3580 01-16-2020 08:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Corriander (Post 414407)
PDI HD Bore up cylinders are being ordered.

Will those fit the receiver with the derlin insert? I was under the impression that they didn稚 fit Mariu spec receivers.

Masada 01-16-2020 08:50 PM

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Originally Posted by redmoon3580 (Post 414461)
Will those fit the receiver with the derlin insert? I was under the impression that they didn稚 fit Mariu spec receivers.

Most likely not initially. The rear sleeve on this batch is pretty tight, but fits Marui and similar cylinders. That being said, it's pretty easy to pull it out and sand the ID of the sleeve to fit larger cylinders (only a few thousandths need to be removed). Sodium and I talked about this when he was putting his gun together. The best solution is just some easy sanding on the sleeve inner diameter. If anyone that bought a receiver wants me to do it I am happy to as well. And as mentioned, it's not always necessary, but on some cylinders it will be.

Corriander 01-16-2020 10:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by redmoon3580 (Post 414461)
Quote:

Originally Posted by Corriander (Post 414407)
PDI HD Bore up cylinders are being ordered.

Will those fit the receiver with the derlin insert? I was under the impression that they didn’t fit Mariu spec receivers.

I’ll likely make a one piece to spec

Bladenzs 01-17-2020 01:03 AM

Yea the hole for the wolverine bolt was the first thing i noticed since I was scared that I'd have to drill into the receiver again since it was kind of tedious the first time from what I remember. So it is definitely appreciated!


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