[Gunkevie]

So you use standard sniper barrels with this Hopup Unit or do u use AEG barrels like the L96 hopup unit ?

 

[1tonne]

So you use standard sniper barrels with this Hopup Unit or do u use AEG barrels like the L96 hopup unit ?

Standard sniper barrels. Not AEG barrels. Although Action Army AEG are multi purpose. So you can use them in both an AEG and VSR

 

[Askari86]

Hello guys.
I have recently bought an AA hop up chamber to my JG Bar 10. Now I'm considering buying a zero trigger system and I'm wondering which of those two would be better: Action Army Zero trigger or the Full Upgrade Zero Trigger Set Ver. 4.1 from AirsoftPro.
The AirsoftPro is way cheaper but will it feat and work good with an Action Army hop up chamber or would it be better to stick to one brand while upgrading my sniper rifle?


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[Onyx-SF]

also consider getting the budget S-Trigger from Springer Custom Works. It is for a similar price as AirsoftPro, but way better than both of those you mentioned. (just my opinion)

 

[Askari86]

Well I have never heard of it before. Certainly I'm gonna have a closer look on it.
Thank you.

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[Simonwwfc]

Mines due to arrive today hope it’s worth the money
And hope it pretty easy to install as I’m a newbie looked on YouTube for installation guide for jg vsr 10 g spec but can’t find any thing

 

[mujing1982]

Not sure what screw it is but if it is the one that keeps the inner barrel in place you may be able to put super glue on the end of the Allen Key/Screw Driver and then wait for 10 minutes for it to harden and then twist to see if it comes out.

Hi 1 tonne

Would like to have a R HOP system on my currently parts, but can you advise which parts should i use, and where to buy the Rhop style concave nub and bucking, bucking i got ML bucking 70degree, but the can i use the ML concave nub? or you can share me the link to buy the best concave/flat nub.

My parts list:
1) PDI chamber ver1.0 , always feel like the arm can not give enough hop up to it's orignal bucking (aeg); then i change to ML bucking aeg type, better but need to use some way to push more on the arm ;
2) PDI inner barrel 6.05 430mm aeg type
3) AA chamber
4) Crazy jet ML inner barrel 430mm
5) EDGI tuning kit

Pls advise should i go AA chamber ? If I choose AA chamber , can it works well with Crazy jet (non bridge) with Rhop? Or should i invest another inner barrel eg PDI VSR inner barrel (vsr type , 6.01mm 430length, got bridge)

Many thanks!

 

[1tonne]

Just make it easy on yourself and get the AA chamber, Maple leaf VSR bucking, Maple Leaf AEG spacer and file the bridge off of your crazy jet barrel

 

[kazuchan]

Just make it easy on yourself and get the AA chamber, Maple leaf VSR bucking, Maple Leaf AEG spacer and file the bridge off of your crazy jet barrel

CJ barrel doesn't have bridge :nuts: :nuts:

 

[shr3dbeard]

here's a question i think is appropriate for this thread:
how should i go about shimming my AA hop up and with what?


here's the back story:
been running my sniper with parts in my signature for approx 1 year-ish
took apart my gun after last game, i had some wacky fliers going on and some inconsistent shots.


upon inspecting the hop up i noticed some wear on the upper part of the nozzle channel and my bucking had damage on the upper portion - in the same area that i noticed the wear on the hop up itself.

my conclusion after some reading through threads is that my hop up chamber is sitting a touch too low.
i still get a very nice bolt pull so i do not believe it to be an issue with the cylinder nor the guide rings

any further input is of course welcomed (if necessary i can make a separate thread)

 

[Plazmaburn]

Brass shim stock is ideal. However tape, paper, aluminum foil, whatever, will work. I would use some feeler gauges to figure out how much you need to shim.

 

[bmr3]

I would just use masking tape since it’s easily layered


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[shr3dbeard]

I would just use masking tape since it's easily layered

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so maybe i should wrap the chamber similiar to how you do diy inner barrel spacers? (obviously being careful not to interfere w anything important)

 

[john3302]

I just received the new Action Army VSR10 chamber and it works a treat.
First impressions are that the finish is excellent and it looks as though it is very durable. Instructions are easy to read and understand.

(Note: I will be comparing the Action Army Chamber to my old chamber that worked really well with no air leaks as it had anti-blowby rings, Dangerworkx Hopup Arm and had the TDC mod. It normally produced about 20-30 fps more than the stock standard VSR chamber)

This new Action Army chamber was able to match the same FPS as my previous kitted out chamber and it does not need anti-blowby rings. I am sure that no air can escape past the bucking or between the air nozzle and the bucking.
To get the bucking into the Action Army Chamber you have to push it in through a hole in the middle of the chamber. This is a very tight fit and I was not able to get the bucking in all the way at first. I then put a little lithium grease on the outside of the bucking and then it slid in perfectly. There was no room at all for air to escape.
It took me about 10 minutes to read the instructions and put the chamber and barrel together. It was pretty easy to do.
I pushed the chamber into my outer barrel and then went to put on the steel mount that holds the chamber in place onto the outer barrel. I found that the old stock standard screws were about 0.5mm to long and so you can either file them down or put in a washer onto the screws. I chose to put a washer onto them.
Once the gun was back together I took it out to my rifle range and tested it (0-1km hour winds). I cocked the gun and fired. The bb's didn't fly very far and so I applied more hopup. The hopup was easy to adjust with an Allen key and should not move out of place at all. So it should be very stable. I fired a few more shots and adjusted the hopup some more. It took me about 4-5 minutes of this to get the hopup set correctly as I done little adjustments each time. Eventually I had the hopup set and the bb was flying straight. No left curve or right curve. The bb's were right on Target.
One other thing to note was that I had absolutely no feeding issues.

I have also owned a couple of PDI chambers for the VSR and the Action Army Chamber is way better. It wins hands down. The PDI chamber can be hard to make fly straight because it has two hopup arms that you need to adjust perfectly while the AA Chamber has only one hopup arm which comes down evenly.
The AA Chamber also uses a stock standard VSR bucking. VSR buckings are better than AEG buckings because the more hopup you apply the more FPS you gain (This is called bb retention). So if you use very heavy weight bb's you will gain energy. With AEG buckings the more hopup you apply the less FPS. So you lose energy. The PDI bucking uses an AEG bucking.
Also the PDI chamber uses rubber o-rings to keep pressure on the hopup arm. These can stretch and move so it is not stable. The Action Army Chamber uses a design which is a like the Top Dead Centre Mod that locks the hopup arm into place. So it will not move. Once it is set you can fire 10,000 rounds and it should still be in the same spot.

You can also use flat hopup spacers on this chamber to create a long flat downward pressure if you choose to but you would have to purchase this separately

Note:This is a flat hopup spacer. The AA VSR10 hopup chamber comes with a round spacer

You can also R-hop the bucking since it is a standard VSR bucking.

I would highly recommend this chamber over any other chamber and think that it would be a good addition to any rifle. Especially if you want the best rifle on the field.

NOTE: One thing to note with the Maple bucking is that it is about half a millimetre shorter than a normal bucking and so I put extra Teflon tape around the inner barrel and then push the black round insert from the AA chamber (this is the black part that goes on the barrel) towards the bucking. The Teflon tape then squishes up and pushes the bucking forward about half a millimetre.

Which inner barrel are you using with your AA hop up chamber?
I was planning on buying a AA hop up and a AA inner barrel for my Bar-10. The AA 6.02 inner barrel is sold out at my local store but they have a PDI 6.05 inner barrel in stock.
I read you should try to stick with the same manufacturer. Just wondering if the fit of the hop up chamber, bucking, inner barrel [AA, ML, PDI] would be spot on or would the AA inner barrel fit slightly better?
This is my first build so I want things to go smoothly.
Thanks

 

[AccurateDMD]

You don't need to stick with the same manufacturer. That's nonsense that may have held true 10 years ago but isn't now. The post you've quoted is 5 years old.

I've posted a link to barrel testing to other questions you've asked before. In it you'll see why the ML CJ barrel is not as good as a quality steel barrel for a volume balanced VSR build.

Get a quality steel barrel with a VSR/GBB cut open window. Doesn't matter what brand. PDI is good. Some say EDGI is better but the cost difference is hard to justify. AA makes a good barrel too. ML makes a steel tightbore now as well i believe. It really doesn't matter.

The most important thing will simply be installing everything and making sure its straight.

 

[1tonne]

I mainly just go AA now.

 

[Mattyboyzhere]

I mainly just go AA now.

What happened to the CJ hype?

 

[AccurateDMD]

https://www.airsoftsniperforum.com/...razy-jet-vs-steel-6-01-tightbore-testing.html

For volume matched systems, quality steel tightbores are the better alternative.

That said, love the CJ on gas pistols, but those are highly overvolumed.

 

[1tonne]

What happened to the CJ hype?

After my original test that I posted on here, I done more tests and there did not seem to be much difference. On the first test, the results were clear that Maple Leaf was better but we have a lot of variables in this sport when it comes to teching. In following tests (months later), they were pretty even.
I have not even seen any advantage using a nice expensive barrel like PDI. AA seemed to come out pretty even. So yes, I have gone back to AA.

 

[john3302]

I just received the new Action Army VSR10 chamber and it works a treat.
First impressions are that the finish is excellent and it looks as though it is very durable. Instructions are easy to read and understand.

(Note: I will be comparing the Action Army Chamber to my old chamber that worked really well with no air leaks as it had anti-blowby rings, Dangerworkx Hopup Arm and had the TDC mod. It normally produced about 20-30 fps more than the stock standard VSR chamber)

This new Action Army chamber was able to match the same FPS as my previous kitted out chamber and it does not need anti-blowby rings. I am sure that no air can escape past the bucking or between the air nozzle and the bucking.
To get the bucking into the Action Army Chamber you have to push it in through a hole in the middle of the chamber. This is a very tight fit and I was not able to get the bucking in all the way at first. I then put a little lithium grease on the outside of the bucking and then it slid in perfectly. There was no room at all for air to escape.
It took me about 10 minutes to read the instructions and put the chamber and barrel together. It was pretty easy to do.
I pushed the chamber into my outer barrel and then went to put on the steel mount that holds the chamber in place onto the outer barrel. I found that the old stock standard screws were about 0.5mm to long and so you can either file them down or put in a washer onto the screws. I chose to put a washer onto them.
Once the gun was back together I took it out to my rifle range and tested it (0-1km hour winds). I cocked the gun and fired. The bb's didn't fly very far and so I applied more hopup. The hopup was easy to adjust with an Allen key and should not move out of place at all. So it should be very stable. I fired a few more shots and adjusted the hopup some more. It took me about 4-5 minutes of this to get the hopup set correctly as I done little adjustments each time. Eventually I had the hopup set and the bb was flying straight. No left curve or right curve. The bb's were right on Target.
One other thing to note was that I had absolutely no feeding issues.

I have also owned a couple of PDI chambers for the VSR and the Action Army Chamber is way better. It wins hands down. The PDI chamber can be hard to make fly straight because it has two hopup arms that you need to adjust perfectly while the AA Chamber has only one hopup arm which comes down evenly.
The AA Chamber also uses a stock standard VSR bucking. VSR buckings are better than AEG buckings because the more hopup you apply the more FPS you gain (This is called bb retention). So if you use very heavy weight bb's you will gain energy. With AEG buckings the more hopup you apply the less FPS. So you lose energy. The PDI bucking uses an AEG bucking.
Also the PDI chamber uses rubber o-rings to keep pressure on the hopup arm. These can stretch and move so it is not stable. The Action Army Chamber uses a design which is a like the Top Dead Centre Mod that locks the hopup arm into place. So it will not move. Once it is set you can fire 10,000 rounds and it should still be in the same spot.

You can also use flat hopup spacers on this chamber to create a long flat downward pressure if you choose to but you would have to purchase this separately

Note:This is a flat hopup spacer. The AA VSR10 hopup chamber comes with a round spacer

You can also R-hop the bucking since it is a standard VSR bucking.

I would highly recommend this chamber over any other chamber and think that it would be a good addition to any rifle. Especially if you want the best rifle on the field.

NOTE: One thing to note with the Maple bucking is that it is about half a millimetre shorter than a normal bucking and so I put extra Teflon tape around the inner barrel and then push the black round insert from the AA chamber (this is the black part that goes on the barrel) towards the bucking. The Teflon tape then squishes up and pushes the bucking forward about half a millimetre.

Hello 1 tonne,
Could you please be of assistance? You seem quite knowledgeable .

I just installed a AA hop and chamber into a bar-10 but I am now having a jamming issue every few minutes. I take the magazine out to clear the chamber a two or three bb's fall out.
After searching I found the problem may be the bb stoppers and the solution is to tighten them.
How do you do this?
Thanks