AIRSOFT TECH YOUTUBERS

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Clolas

Discussion Starter · 15 d ago

Hello everyone, before i go sleep or when i have nothing to do i like you watch airsoft tech videos. Upgrading guns and more, the channels i watch mostly are Blind Sniper, Airsoft after hours, i dont really like game play videos. And i always run out of stuff to watch. So here comes the question what airsoft tech youtubers you watch? Airsoft is the stuff that interests me and i can learn some useful stuff as well. I dont like channels that spend huge money, to buy parts and just put them in i enjoy more of DYI kind videos

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AsianGuy

· #2 · 15 d ago

most of the stuff I learned early on was from theairsofttech on youtube..but this is more for AEG
As far as AEP, VSR, and other more exotic platforms, I had to search around for other resources

RonSwanson

· #3 · 15 d ago

https://youtube.com/@NegativeAirsoftTech

Best tech, solid content and comedy. All are real builds for clients.

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Leo Greer

· #4 · 15 d ago

Negative Airsoft is entertaining to be sure, but his tech advice can be extremely silly at times. Some reports suggest its on purpose for the sake of trolling. He does put together working builds, but not always as good as they should be...

TheAirsoftTech is one of the few I've found who's not throwing crazy stuff around. He also doesn't advocate for spending crazy money on things, so that's a big plus--very few YouTube personalities will tell you that for your 60 RPS DSG you should still use your stock gears.

Most YouTube techs aren't all that good. For example, I watched a video from Valiant Airsoft a while back, where he had an LCT steel EBB piston in his 13:1 35K build. Basically, his gun was chewing itself to bloody bits, and the evidence was in the numbers he gave. I asked a few polite questions, and it became clear that he knew nothing about how to properly build his replica.

The video title is something along the lines of "How to build the best airsoft gun ever" or some such thing if you want to try to find it on his channel.

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SiliconeSword

· #5 · 14 d ago

These playlists are full of top tier stuff, and be sure to check out the channel who posted the stuff as there's also good things I haven't added.

https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PLwIntKeCNjw-0P5OsobrPqCdqSXSKA4yH

https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PLwIntKeCNjw_esuV5AmFFPHPKf9K4FylB

https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PLwIntKeCNjw_mAxlvJuy38LdZQOvzRcrB

https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PLwIntKeCNjw_5wRgAx1JqWVhg98khsdns

https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PLwIntKeCNjw-Arypv-XREThX-WwvL1wee

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Dolovo

· #6 · 13 d ago

Leo Greer said:
Negative Airsoft is entertaining to be sure, but his tech advice can be extremely silly at times. Some reports suggest its on purpose for the sake of trolling. He does put together working builds, but not always as good as they should be...

He has some usefull tips at times but I always take stuff from him with a grain of salt. For example he thinks R hop is not working at all. But with some of his tips on gas guns are very good.
Albeit he is less trustworthy with his newer vids then his older ones, since he is selling his own parts now.

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Whamhammer

· #7 · 12 d ago

Leo Greer said:
Negative Airsoft is entertaining to be sure, but his tech advice can be extremely silly at times. Some reports suggest its on purpose for the sake of trolling. He does put together working builds, but not always as good as they should be...

TheAirsoftTech is one of the few I've found who's not throwing crazy stuff around. He also doesn't advocate for spending crazy money on things, so that's a big plus--very few YouTube personalities will tell you that for your 60 RPS DSG you should still use your stock gears.

Most YouTube techs aren't all that good. For example, I watched a video from Valiant Airsoft a while back, where he had an LCT steel EBB piston in his 13:1 35K build. Basically, his gun was chewing itself to bloody bits, and the evidence was in the numbers he gave. I asked a few polite questions, and it became clear that he knew nothing about how to properly build his replica.

The video title is something along the lines of "How to build the best airsoft gun ever" or some such thing if you want to try to find it on his channel.

Overall, Lukes's (Negative Airsoft) advice seems to be good, is there anything in particular that you would be able to point to, that is particularly controversial?

I am not trying to be argumentative but would like to have a better idea of what you are referring to.

I also really enjoy TheAirsoftTech as well, I'd say about 90-95% of what he talks about is solid; I had a problem with what he was advising for as far as barrel lengths and volumization (he wasn't accounting for heavier BB weight use), and I don't agree that R-hops are for any build (he does admit its controversial). I do reference his videos to quite a few people.

I am guessing he has had a kid, recently, since it's been almost a year since he uploaded a video.

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Leo Greer

· #8 · 12 d ago

Whamhammer said:
Overall, Lukes's (Negative Airsoft) advice seems to be good, is there anything in particular that you would be able to point to, that is particularly controversial?

I am not trying to be argumentative but would like to have a better idea of what you are referring to.

I also really enjoy TheAirsoftTech as well, I'd say about 90-95% of what he talks about is solid; I had a problem with what he was advising for as far as barrel lengths and volumization (he wasn't accounting for heavier BB weight use), and I don't agree that R-hops are for any build (he does admit its controversial). I do reference his videos to quite a few people.

I am guessing he has had a kid, recently, since it's been almost a year since he uploaded a video.

I don't even need to point to controversial facts:

He says in his porting video that you should always port your cylinder so the piston never pulls back behind it, hang all voluming. Basically, he's saying make a useless port in your cylinder when you short stroke for no reason at all. He's also said the inverse: short stroke until the piston hits the port, however far that may be, hang all voluming.

He supports the use of Li-ion batteries, even for upgraded builds, which are factually a bad idea for airsoft because of how low discharge they are. Most are advertised as 5C (do the math on 3000mah batteries), but many, like Titan, have been tested to be more like 3C, which is of course horribly low. Titan batteries are also horribly overpriced.

Over on Airsoftsociety some of our members happen to be electrical engineers and possess the equipment to do true testing, and aside from Li-ions being terribly inadequate, most LiPos are also far lower than advertised.

www.airsoftsociety.com

Objective Battery Test Titan LION vs. Kypom LIPO vs. HV...

aotsukisho If I sent you some packs, can you do an objective review on them? Two TITAN LION, one a 2600 and one a 3000. I want to see if the 3K is the same as the one you got from me earlier and then compare them to a KYPOM 2600/2700mah Brick . Plus I have an old Turnigy Bolt 2S High...

www.airsoftsociety.com

www.airsoftsociety.com

And here's a short quote:

"Final verdict.
Titanpower 2s 2600mAh: 10A maximum discharge, barely even capable of reliably running an entry level AEG. Don't buy this.
Titanpower 2s 3000mAh: 15A maximum discharge, bare minimum requirement of being able to run a stock AEG. Don't buy this.
Kypom 2s 2700mAh: Actually not bad measurements, just with a slightly overstated capacity. Best battery out of the bunch by far.
Kypom 2s 1500mAh: I am unsure about the cell specifications but higher IR than even the Titanpower 2600mAh so I would assume that this one tops out at under 10A continuous discharge. Double heatshrink is kind of weird. Would not recommend."

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SiliconeSword

· #9 · 12 d ago

For HPA batteries I'd say Titan is THE thing to get as they're easier to revive than a Lipo if you drain them, and I think are maybe less sensitive with how they're stored with power loss and all that, but other than that I don't think they'd be very good judging by their output power.
AEGs can only suck in so much power, so even if your battery is a 40c and your gun needs 30, you're gonna be totally safe. Running a battery that has 30c with a gun that needs 30c isn't ideal as the gun may peak at 40 sometimes, and running underpowered batteries I think may be bad for them, and your gun is slower than it should be.
For anybody reading this, I'd get RC batteries as that's a hobby that's much more demanding of quality and performance, so nearly any RC battery will be better for your gun than most airsoft batteries, and will likely be cheaper too.

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Leo Greer

· #10 · 12 d ago

To my knowledge, Li-ions and LiPos are about the same with storage--both will hold charge almost indefinitely--the real difference is in the burst current they can provide. Li-ions are great for flashlights, HPA, and anything that requires low current over long periods of time, as they are also more may efficient than LiPos, but bad for anything that requires bursts of higher current.

I've heard it said by those with more knowledge than I that airsoft is a great place for LiPo manufacturers to dump their factory mistakes that don't meet RC standards, since most of us don't know any better. I tend to agree with that.

For me, I purchase either Kypom, Gens Ace, or RC brands like Tattu and Ovonic, as Kypom and Gens Ace have been proven to be very close to advertised specs, and RC brands allow you to "overshoot" your target. Like Silicone mentions: you can't have too much discharge. Hence why my "baseline" battery is a 5000mah 70-140C.

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RonSwanson

· #11 · 12 d ago

Leo Greer said:
I don't even need to point to controversial facts:

He says in his porting video that you should always port your cylinder so the piston never pulls back behind it, hang all voluming. Basically, he's saying make a useless port in your cylinder when you short stroke for no reason at all. He's also said the inverse: short stroke until the piston hits the port, however far that may be, hang all voluming.

He supports the use of Li-ion batteries, even for upgraded builds, which are factually a bad idea for airsoft because of how low discharge they are. Most are advertised as 5C (do the math on 3000mah batteries), but many, like Titan, have been tested to be more like 3C, which is of course horribly low. Titan batteries are also horribly overpriced.

Over on Airsoftsociety some of our members happen to be electrical engineers and possess the equipment to do true testing, and aside from Li-ions being terribly inadequate, most LiPos are also far lower than advertised.

Objective Battery Test Titan LION vs. Kypom LIPO vs. HV...

aotsukisho If I sent you some packs, can you do an objective review on them? Two TITAN LION, one a 2600 and one a 3000. I want to see if the 3K is the same as the one you got from me earlier and then compare them to a KYPOM 2600/2700mah Brick . Plus I have an old Turnigy Bolt 2S High...

www.airsoftsociety.com

And here's a short quote:

"Final verdict.
Titanpower 2s 2600mAh: 10A maximum discharge, barely even capable of reliably running an entry level AEG. Don't buy this.
Titanpower 2s 3000mAh: 15A maximum discharge, bare minimum requirement of being able to run a stock AEG. Don't buy this.
Kypom 2s 2700mAh: Actually not bad measurements, just with a slightly overstated capacity. Best battery out of the bunch by far.
Kypom 2s 1500mAh: I am unsure about the cell specifications but higher IR than even the Titanpower 2600mAh so I would assume that this one tops out at under 10A continuous discharge. Double heatshrink is kind of weird. Would not recommend."

He puts at least 1 lie in every video (and has said so multiple times), it's to force people to think for themselves and stop the mindless sheep teching that's become a bit prevalent. (Duhh just get the most £££/$$$ parts) I think you may have found the porting lie...... But missed the point.

He did say he prefers lipos for customers as li-ion has no benefit and costs two much. Can get 3 lipos for 1 ion. 3 lipos means it doesn't matter if 1 dies unlike the ion.

He very much appeals to the UK audience (who he gets his work from) think maybe your not getting the British humour, language and mannerisms, making it harder to tell the lies.

SiliconeSword

· #12 · 12 d ago

Ya, but he could have been lying when he said that, and there's actually 3 lies per video... Makes me wonder about his hate of R-hop, Maple Leaf, lapping, stainless barrels, and other stuff that I somewhat like, as that could be a lie, or he's being weird. I guess I'm not exactly hyped by his lack of explanation on things like that, and how he doesn't like "numbers", even though it's not really possible to measure some things otherwise.
His stuff can be useful I imagine, but to a noob or somebody who is somewhat incompetent that's not exactly ideal.

With all that being said, he's doing all that stuff for free and doesn't have to, so he can very well do whatever he wants as he clearly spends lots of time editing his videos. Do wish he'd fix the glare off his mat and quit occasionally uploading in 360p with a large black border though....

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Leo Greer

· #13 · 11 d ago

I'm probably more familiar with British humour than most Americans (British TV is SO much better than American), but it is easily possible that I'm somehow missing things. That being said, as Silicone mentioned, I am not the injured party; it's way more influential to noobs who might simply wholesale follow his advice, or any other YouTuber for that matter.

Also, though I think he's obviously not a complete shamster, saying "there's at least one lie in my videos" is basically saying "anything that I say that happens to be wrong is actually just one of my lies." Which is worrying to me in general.

Clearly his stuff works, and works okay, but the opinion I hold is that he doesn't really know much of the science behind airsoft. He does what he does and some of it works, but at the end of the day he doesn't know why it works.

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SiliconeSword

· #14 · 11 d ago

One thing I just thought of is that there's people like me and other members in here who spend rather ridiculous amounts of time trying to attain perfection with one gun, while he's trying to do as many as possible.
While his stuff may work, it may not entirely align with "the very absolute most definitely for sure best" some of us are after. We may be his intended audience, or we may not, but he is just some guy on the interwebs after all.
I'll continue to watch his stuff, but very little of it is actually applicable to me seeing as I'm who he discriminates against most, an HPA guy.

Whamhammer

· #15 · 11 d ago

SiliconeSword said:
One thing I just thought of is that there's people like me and other members in here who spend rather ridiculous amounts of time trying to attain perfection with one gun, while he's trying to do as many as possible.
While his stuff may work, it may not entirely align with "the very absolute most definitely for sure best" some of us are after. We may be his intended audience, or we may not, but he is just some guy on the interwebs after all.
I'll continue to watch his stuff, but very little of it is actually applicable to me seeing as I'm who he discriminates against most, an HPA guy.

Well, it probably wouldn't do him much good to have a tech do content that didn't involve working on gearbox, as it's probably more interesting content for people to follow AEG work, than HPA. He also has the 'negative" schtick.

If his job is being an airsoft tech, he does have more time to devote to the work, and that could answer why he can do as many as possible, the learning curve would be at his advantage as well. He also seems to be primarily working on more "standard fare" builds and some for owners who have a more constrained budget.

Not trying to take sides, just looking at the possibilities.

SiliconeSword

· #16 · 11 d ago

I'm not really complaining about him, but people seem to think that he's a Jedi master while his main focus with guns is just to make them shoot well and as long as possible.

I don't think that there's really any high end techs out there though, as most people will probably not want to pay for 10 hours of machining time and assembling with expensive parts, so nobody exists who would do that because of current demand. Definitely the think you do yourself if you want anything like that.

Leo Greer

· #17 · 11 d ago

In more recent times, I find myself trying to get as much from as little as possible. I can tell you that Negative definitely does unnecessary work, as we all do from time to time, but things like nozzle replacements are almost always simply a waste.

He also purports using a shorter than normal spec nozzle...

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RonSwanson

· #18 · 11 d ago

As a tech she has always said every build is done so that the customer has the least ways to mess it up using it, most Airsoft players aren't on forums, don't know how the rif works and don't know diddly squat about upgrades. Which is why his style is to build solid, dependable and well performing guns.

Is it the pinnacle of performance no, but has he built the Toyota/Honda (maybe even a Lexus sometimes) of the Airsoft world yes.

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Leo Greer

· #19 · 11 d ago (Edited)

RonSwanson said:
Is it the pinnacle of performance no, but has he built the Toyota/Honda (maybe even a Lexus sometimes) of the Airsoft world yes.

I don't disagree with you. There's way too much evidence and experience that trustworthy players have with his builds. If I had a broken gun and couldn't tech it myself for some reason, I would send it to Negative.

My comments/concerns were centered around his value as a YouTube teching aid, given that he intentionally lies (supports crazy stuff) about the process of rebuilding and improving a mechanical toy, and he generally doesn't share what those lies are, so it's very nebulous. As you've correctly said, most players don't know diddly squat. So why would you fight sheep teching by putting out contents that is most confusing to the new people who want to fight sheep teching and do what Negative does?

Wouldn't you fight sheep teching like we do here on the forums, by explaining everything with science, reason, testing, (and yes, numbers

), so that people who really want to join the fight are equipped properly?

edit I'll also say that I watched a lot of his videos before I even knew there was an intentional lie edit

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RonSwanson

· #20 · 11 d ago

Leo Greer said:
Wouldn't you fight sheep teching like we do here on the forums, by explaining everything with science, reason, testing, (and yes, numbers ), so that people who really want to join the fight are equipped properly?

For a long period on this forum whenever someone asked should I buy this part I would ask them why are they looking at the part, what's wrong with the current one?

Way to many people just follow online builds for snipers and buy identical parts without knowing what they do better than stock or even if they are.

How many vsr's out on the fields are AA hop chamber, crazy jet barrel and an m150 (plus triggers etc) and the owner has no idea why just chucked money at the parts people told them to get, eventually share that knowledge enough and people don't know why. (Not saying it's a bad build)

So many people on here and other places asking if they should buy x part just because someone else did.

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