Another new DMR that will most definitely not arrive in our country, E&C 417
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It sounds suspiciously similar to the S&T 417 I had, which was also V2.5 compatible. Here's hoping that it's built better. Between the wood screws securing the motor plate to the grip, the irritating mag release that would rotate out of position when pressed, the awful front-end flex, and the M4-spec buffer tube (so not 1:1 scale), the S&T 417 was a real mess.
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That setup in the photo looks like it would end up being ported, that about a 15” barrel. All the other V2.5 manufacturers use full cylinders on the 20” barrels and ported with the shorter barrels
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I want a great v2.5 with full cylinder ootb and I went so low as to wishing novritsch would release one
Cyma e-edition was full Cylinder ootb but idk if the dealers made that themselves
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The A&K, CYMA, and Classic Army SR25/M110’s come with a full cylinder if the replica is equipped with a 20” outer barrel and ~500mm inner barrel.
The A&K is lower priced model but it doesn’t have a QuickChange Spring Guide system in it, and the internals aren't all that hot. The CYMA’s mosfets seem to have a problem with 11.1v’s and can go bad, seems people are using PerunHybrids if they fry, but the rest of the internals are pretty good. The Classic Army SASS has, hands down, the best mosfet/trigger unit, it has a bore up setup (in addition to being a V2.5), the motor is a bit weak, and a 24mm nozzle is needed to replace the 23mm if using any other hopup bucking than the factory one (ask me how I know).
I usually recommend the CYMA because its more available than the Classic Army (pretty sure the SASS models are unicorns these days). If CYMA would up the game on the mosfet and microswitch, it would be a total knockout.
Curious that it has a bore up cyllinder stock, I have been debating the classic army versus the Cyma for a while now for a DMR build. I just know with the cyma I have to replace the mosfet and that the cyma V2.5 gearbox shell is more properitary.
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I prefer carbine length DMR of cyma but is currently out of stock.
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Well, I just worked on my pal’s full-length CYMA SR25, and I was (unpleasantly) surprised to find out that it was equipped with a ported cylinder (kind of self-defeating) , so apparently the only models that now have full V2.5 cylinders are Classic Army’s M110 SASS, and A&K full-length SR25.
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If you can find a Classic Army M110 SASS (AR014M), I would go with that over a CYMA; the ECS trigger unit is more robust, it has the bore-up, and the lower receiver has a physical blockoff that is easily used with some JB Weld/epoxy to fill in the notch hole on the selector switch.
The “have to” changes would be the motor and to change the nozzle from a 23mm to a 24mm, to use normal style hop up buckings.
That's an interesting rule. I wrote up the DMR rules for Ballahack, and I went for a 16" minimum barrel length requirement. I recall doing that to open up more replica options so the DMR class would be more frequently utilized, but I can't recall what specific replicas I had in mind. I wonder why the fields in question went for 20" instead.
Totally understand doing the caliber restriction, though. It's easy for the chrono marshal to figure out what makes a qualified DMR based on mag type.
So weird to port the cylinder on a V2.5, I am curious about the E&C V2.5s. If those are any good might go for those, since they seem to be more traditional v2.5.
Unless you have a carbine 417 you barely have the issue of over voluming on v2.5 equiped replicas. They often have a minimal barrel lenght of 400 mm.
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Most 15-16” outer barrel SR25/M110 replicas are using ~363mm inner barrels.
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Not exactly sure what advantage that you are talking about, I know of some though.
Please clarify your point.
From taiwans site this version of the HK417 has a 270 mm inner barrel. So yeh will be overvolumed. For 16 inch barrels I would expect around 400mm inner barrels like the cyma and the classic army have.
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I think the rule is as such due to “faithfully recreate” the actual replica; ie. one is going to be hard pressed for find a carbine length SR25/M110/M14 EBR/SVD/ etc being used in a DMR role.
Probably also to make it less maneuverable and more cumbersome.
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A&K and Classic Army have pretty much always used less than a 400mm inner barrel on its CA25 carbines…..
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