[~Ranger~]

I agree with them. They are a very big improvement in accuracy and consistancy. I make my own also and I wouldnt buy any. Masking tape does the trick. I would start with the very front one first. Each one you make, test it by sliding your inner barrel into your barrel and make sure its right and move to the next one and then test its fit. On the vsr rifles the barrel tapers and gets smaller towards the front so each spacer would be larger than the one before it. Leave some space near the tip for your endcap and some space for your hop up slider adjuster. "I sreiously suggest a TDC hopup mod and shim your hopup arm" I hate them slide adjusters cause I always bump mine and it drives me mad,lol.. the TDC mod is a great mod and you can find how to do in on here someplace. Make sure you take pics of your rifle cause we ALL love gun porn!! If you have ANY questions dont hesitate to ask bro.. Were here to help...:tup:

 

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They are necessary to any airsoft gun, whether its springer,gas or aeg... Most every aeg has a tight enough fit for the inner barrel to slide in the outer barrel nice and snug. All inner barrels move when shooting. If you was to put an m16 inner barrel into an mp5 you would have wobble from the tip of the outer barrel to the tip of the inner barrel. Therefore a suppressor with something to support the extra length is needed. If you care about accuracy that is.. but if you like your aeg spitting bbs all over and not hitting dead on then they arent needed. I dont see how you think otherwise!

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I hope you dont think I am trying to be nasty or anything Wolfgeorge,lol.. I mean no harm and I am simply just talking with ya my friend..

 

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Really? That dosnt make any sense,lol.. How could that happen? I got soooooo much better results after I made mine in both mine and my kids bar10 and with my old rifles back in the day. I had a buddy who owned 2 barrets but we dont talk these days so I cant ask how his was inside. He moved away and I never got his new number. I cant imagine how much better it would be after adding some. That would be sick! Hahaha... I about broke in half when I tried his rifle in a game. That sunuva gun was heavy!!! There is no way I would ever want one. And I hear its really an l96 inder that sweet metal body.

 

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You just have to be strong enough to be able to use the heavy guns. I filled my bar10 with clay so it now weight 9 pounds. I have no trouble carrying it long distances/long periods of time.

Yeah I have degenerative disk disease and bulging disks.. Heavy is one thing, anything heavier than a vsr right now will put me out of commision for a week,lol.. before this back issue I woulda been fine as I was a roofer for over 10 years and was used to carrying heavy stuff. My m14 last year was too heavy so I was forced to trade it off for a g36. My M28 was even too much and made my back stiffen up withing 10 minutes and then I couldnt walk.

A few years ago before I got hurt I was able to do one armed chin up with either arm! So yeah its not that I'm weak like a little girl,lol.. I'm injured.

And I totally agree with Kranium. I am using a full lenght foam wrap with tape on my inner barrel. Its quiet as all heck. But my piston slam fires 75% of the time right now so I cant hardly do much testing on its accuracy right now. My kids barrel spacers are masking tape and his ridle has like a "poing" noise when it shoots. I believe that echo from the sound in the barrel or something like that. I plan to keep them different for a few games and then change his to be like mine with the foam wrap. Then I will know for sure.

 

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@Ranger- The sound can be caused by a difference in BB weight, barrel bore, barrel brand, FPS, air seal, hop up, and so forth.

If your foam spacer encompasses a greater length than his tape spacers, then your rifle will probably be more quiet. The one concept I would have to endorse regardless of material is that:

full-length spacers of material 'X' > non-full-length spacers of material 'X'

I think that's a statement nobody will argue with :yup:.

I was only dry firing it lastnight to hear if there was any difference. their both Bar10's with the same piston,inner barrel,hopup. I dont know for sure if I wrapped his cylinder head with teflon yet or not. I cant remember,lol.. But his fps is lower than mine by a little. I dont have a chrono to know how much yet but his spring is softer than mine by a little bit. I know his cylinder is an aluminum one while mine looks like a stainless steel or something. Way more glossy than his and his rear of his cylinder was crimped into the bolt handle thing :I dont know the name of it" and mine has pins running threw it. I also do have a different cylinder head. I also noticed his head goes all the way into the cylinder while mine stops at the o ring. so when all the way tightened I can still see the black ring slightly. I cant say if thats ok or not but it will not go past it no matter how tight I try. I can take pics and post em on another thread in the morning. I have lots of stuff to do tonight and wont have the time to mess with it.

 

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I recently swapped my cylinder to this shiny one since I saw it looked stronger. I tried a few different cylinder heads and all ended up the same way. So I guess this cylinder is just different. But I was afraid of the crimped style one cause I've seen the come apart before. In my own hands! My old rifle did that. I wanna say it was just a cheap old m50 swiss arms or something like that. It was a sorta alright rifle I guess. I wanna say the cylinder head wasnt removable so it was un upgradable without a new cylinder. Once it popped I did everything I could to save it but it was dead in the water at that point. I got a Socom gear R700 after that and it was ok. Nothing super special,just ok. I must admit I do like these Bar10's though. They feel nice and solid and no creaks like them other rifles. My M28 is bad assed though!! Thats why I used the stock for my Bar10 once it died. Well worth the work I did to make it fit. I suggest getting an m28 from a boneyard deal just for the mags,magwell and stock! Its more than worth it!!!

 

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Yeah them M28's are sweet! I blew out my piston. I wont buy a replacement one from Echo1 cause its going to be the same cheap plastic one I already blew out. I have all my old m28 parts still. the cylinder,head,hopup and reciever and I cut the barrel shorter and now I can see how crappy they made the barrel. one side is way thicker than the other side. "cut and looking at the thickness of the barrel that is" its amazing my rifle wasnt shooting sideways from the looks of this thin,lol.. barrel spacers would only keep the inner barrl cockeyed to the left unless I custom made something. Foam could maybe but I think it would still bee crooked.

And I didnt even think about the hopup making the sound differ being set differently:tup:

 

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The bolt handle on my old Well mb10 is crimped and it has lasted me for the past 2 years now. Guess I justgot lucky. Anyway, I just realized I have never put barrel spacers in my Well mb10 because With it's 200ft range and the th I only use it to play around shooting with iron sights in my backyard, I never felt the need to. (Pretend this is a new paragraph. Having problems with the enter key again.) So I recently discovered oogoo, a cheap alternative to sugru. I wonder how well it would be at quieting my ba10. Right now I have everything clayed but I am constantly getting clay flaking off when I take off the assembly from the stock. Silent do you know how well silicone rubber stops echos compared to clay?

Go steal an old couch cushion from the side of the road for the foam. that basically what I did.

 

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I have everything clayed and have enough foam stuffed into the smaller places. I am wondering if this silicone rubber "oogoo" (look it up on instructables) is any good for this.

http://www.instructables.com/id/How-To-Make-Your-Own-Sugru-Substitute/step3/Mixing-Oogoo/

This is the first thing I found on oogoo. Seems pretty sweet!

 

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I would be afraid to fill the barrel though. What if you need to pull the inner barrel out later on? That inner barrel will be stuck,lol.. I am curious to check out that oogoo though!