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I'm missing two of them, couldn't find them unfortunately

Marine Sniper,
Silent Warrior
Crosshairs on the Killzone
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Lol, putting a picture up about the books you have doesn't make it suitable for The Gallery.
my bad. i thought hey..picture...maybe it should go in gallery. will keep that in mind for the future.
Shooter is NOT a good book.

However, I will recommend Trigger Men.

Ironically, the Forward for Trigger Men was written by Jack Coughlin, which makes me wonder if the editor even asked the author about it before they went ahead and put it in...much of the Trigger Men book is about debunking half the BS that spews from Jack's mouth.
Who is this Jack fellow.. And what does he lie about?
Jack Coughlin is the author of Shooter. Most of his books are filled with nonsense which he has decided is how snipers SHOULD be. I stopped reading when he said he making long range precision shots on instinct alone because he knew his rifle so can get hits on target using approximations, but that is NOT being a sniper or precision shooting.

For example, an accurately zeroed M40A3 with the elevation dialed in somewhere between 300 and 400 yards, you can aim center mass and make torso hits anywhere from 50-750 yards. Hitting a target with a scoped rifle is something a monkey could do, being a trained US Marine Corps Scout/Sniper is extremely more involved than being able to place rounds on target.

I'm being generous when I say that shooting is only 10% of the snipers game. The emphasis placed on shooting is often misinterpreted because when it comes time to need that 10% you had better have all your ducks in a row and make that shot. The adage of needing 110% of heart into the game is not a helpful suggestion in that line of work, it's a necessity. A Scout/Sniper is given tasks, not missions.

When you complete Scout/Sniper school, you are generally more capable of doing a platoon commanders (an officer, usually O3) job in the battlespace than he is. Essentially, you ARE doing the same process they are, just with 2-4 guys and less firepower...but better results.

Jack's whole book was essentially a thesis for a new "breed" of sniper, one that can keep up with the fast pace of today's war. He was right that the lines and battles moved much to quickly for Scout/Snipers to be effective during the onset of the war. However, eventually the lines stopped moving and we became an occupying force. For the last 3 or 4 years the war has been a literal snipers paradise where they seem to be the only unit type tallying effective engagements...provided they have officers which allow them to do their job...the brass typically has a micromanagement problem.

What's important to note is that Jack submits the concept of MSST or Mobile Scout Sniper Team (I could be mistaken on the exactness but it's something along those lines). What Jack fails to realize is that putting a guy on a HMMWV with a scoped rifle is not a sniper mission. This is "any monkey with a scoped rifle getting hits on target" in action. The quickly moving lines and need for immediate and accurate fire is why the Marine Corps *used* to require rifle qualification with open sights out to 500 yards. Both the Army and USMC adopted schools to train Squad Designated Marksmen.

The type of mission is what separates a DM from Sniper, not the weapon type. A DM is rifleman who's a good shot and has better equipment to match his ability.

A sniper is a master of tactics, fieldcraft AND marksmanship. They think on their feet and make their own decisions. A Scout/Sniper assistant team leader is responsible for over $1,000,000 of sensitive and classified equipment. They sign their name on the dotted line, not the brass. They plan missions, they liaison with different sections for food, water, security, intelligence, and more. They even talk directly to aircraft on station and can order them to drop bombs ANYWHERE no questions asked.

I was in Scout/Sniper school shortly after Shooter was published. The instructors held a particular hatred for Jack and the book. Two of them are mentioned by name in Trigger Men, all Jack does is talk about how awesome he is.

I don't know about you, but the first thing that springs to mind when someone tells me how great they are is, "If they are so awesome, why do they feel the need to point it out? Shouldn't I see it for myself."

Which brings me to my next point kids, "No one cares what you say, only what you do."

Which is similar to "actions speak louder than words", a phrasing of which is most texts of all religions.
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phridum said:
Which brings me to my next point kids, "No one cares what you say, only what you do."

Which is similar to "actions speak louder than words", a phrasing of which is most texts of all religions.
So very true, I wish some people would realize this concept.
Good stuff there Phridum. Thanks for the great read and truthful information.
I should also point out that my marksmanship instructor, Sgt. M (one of the guys mentioned in Trigger Men) said they looked for his records and none of the schools had records of Mr. Coughlin having attended.
huh wow...lots of news. Still have not started shooter, will keep all of this in mind when i am reading.
I recommend the book Shadow Company. Good book. Great detail of a mans brains falling out of his head after being hit by a .50 cal round. Plus alot of action and the insights on an active soldier. Its more of a journal turned into a story. I think it was very good. 8.5/10
I have a few pictures of that. I don't need to read it.

Maj John Plaster (who wrote the "Ultimate Sniper" manual) is a tactical genius. I just finished reading his book about his experiences with SOG in Vietnam. I wasn't that impressed with the manual because it was all stuff I'd already learned in the Basic Course but after reading "Secret Commandos" I have a realization that I learned all that stuff probably because he figured it out.

I'll pick up his other books now too.

A legend that still lives!
Has anyone read Hogs in the Shadows: Combat Stories from Marine Snipers in Iraq?

I'm looking to pick it up, but not sure of what the content is.
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