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I have a very nice 509mm prometheus inner barrel from another build i was doing. My question is will the BAR10, normal or G-SPEC, allow a barrel of this length without poking out the front?

I don't care about cylinder:length ratios are anything like that, so please don't bring them up. I just want to make sure a 509mm inner barrel will fit inside of either the normal BAR 10 or the G-SPEC without protruding out the front.
 
I think you will have to use a silencer adapter and silencer if you are going with 509 inner barrel. I think that someone on forum made calculations with inner barrels and found out that for vsr ideal barrel lenght is somewhere around 500-550 mm. I'll try to find it and link that article here.
 
The maximum you can have is 500mm. So 509 will stick out.
 
1tonne if I understood right you have 550mm inner barrel in your g-spec? I was reading you advanced vsr guide, really good article, it will help me alot when my bar 10 pro version arrives. :)
 
1tonne if I understood right you have 550mm inner barrel in your g-spec? I was reading you advanced vsr guide, really good article, it will help me alot when my bar 10 pro version arrives. :)
I don't now. That would have been some years back. I now have a 470mm long inner barrel which is good for 0.4gm bb's.
You need to choose your inner barrel according to the bb weight you are going to use.
This is from my VSR10 guide:

"Here is a rough guideline as to which bb and barrel to use to get the most efficiency from your cylinder.

So chrono your gun and work out the FPS. Then look at the chart and work out the weight bb you need for your FPS. (You can always use a slightly heavier bb and the energy/backspin of the gun should still be able to carry it)
330-370fps = 0.23-0.28gm
370-420fps = 0.28gm-0.30gm
420-450fps = 0.30gm-0.32gm
450-500fps = 0.32gm-0.36gm
500-540fps = 0.36gm-0.4gm

540fps upwards = 0.40gm-0.45gm
(These FPS/BB weights can be used with any gun setup. So if your pistol is firing at a ridiculous 540fps then use a 0.40gm as long as there is enough air in the cylinder to push it out the barrel)
(Also note that often you can increase the weight of your bb if you use a longer nub on you hopup rubber. The longer nub will help to create more backspin and this will help carry the bb further. This is why R-hop is so effective)

Now to get the best efficiency from your VSR10 cylinder with this bb weight you need to get the right length barrel
Note: I use 6.03mm barrels and information in purple is for the tech head type people and so if you are not into tech stuff and are just starting out please ignore the purple text

Action Army Cylinder Dimensions
Piston Travel Length: 90.2mm
Cylinder diameter: 22.5mm
Compression Volume: 35864 mm^3

So see the chart below:
0.3gm bb use a 554mm barrel (15821 mm^3) = 2.26:1
0.32gm bb use a 530mm barrel (15136 mm^3) = 2.36:1
0.36gm bb use a 500mm barrel (14279 mm^3) = 2.51:1
0.4gm bb use a 470mm barrel (13422 mm^3) = 2.67:1

0.43gm bb use a 430mm barrel (12279 mm^3) = 2.92:1
0.45gm bb use a 400mm Barrel (11423 mm^3) = 3.13:1"

 
Also aftermarket supressors are filled with foam wich does dampen the sound of your gun.
 
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Thanks Reliku.

Can you suggest a thread/supp to get? I've had... frustrations when getting my own stuff and them not working the way I expected. I'd be happy if you just point me at something and I can throw money at it.
 
Most of them work as long as they're intended for the bar-10 or vsr-10 pro version. I can't really recommend any as I've used only one so far (made by P&J, taiwangun.com). Nowadays I only use my own custom suppressors with custom fittings so I don't use thread adapters anymore :hehe:
 
I had a 554mm barrel in my TM ProSniper with a TM barrel adapter and a 12cm silencer and the barrel stuck out , so I changed to a 20cm silencer

Here is what you could get , if it was in stock
RA-Tech 6.01 510mm Inner Barrel Extension Set for Marui VSR-11/RA VSR11

And then get one of these or PDI one or a TM one
The PDI one allows the barrel to go through but the other ones have to be drilled out
Matrix CNC Threaded Muzzle Adapter for VSR-10 JG BAR-10 Pro Sniper Rifle (14mm negative), Accessories & Parts, External Parts, Adapters - Evike.com Airsoft Superstore

And then get a silencer , anything over 8cm in length will be ok
Matrix High Speed Airsoft Mock Silencer / Barrel Extension - 30 X 110mm - Zombie Hunter #1, Accessories & Parts, External Parts, Outer Barrels, Barrel Extensions - Evike.com Airsoft Superstore
 
Or just get any spuressor from taiwangun, they are filled with foam and do work actually you just need silencer adater for it and some models do come with both left and right 14mm thread.
 
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