If you want help with a upgrade list I'd be more then happy to help.-snip-
The rifles in question:
Well MB08 (I love the externals, but I don't know a ton about the internals. Does it have a metal trigger box (No, it's plastic), and will it accept a PDI type-96 hopup unit?) (Yes)
Javelin M24 (Seems like a pretty good rifle and is almost fully APS2 compatible. Have to get the specially designed PDI hopup, and I don't think that there's any other options.) (Correct. they do need the specially designed hopup, but I've seen some Javelins preform nicely.)
A&K M24 (looks like it has some great internals but it does have a VSR-10 hopup. Problem?) (I'd stay away from A&K, if you want a M24 go for CA, Javelin, or the oldie BAR10/VSR10)
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Battle of the clones
Alright, I need some advice! When it comes to buying an airsoft gun of any kind, I take a ton of time to do research on absolutely everything. Well, after a week plus of researching a few different rifles and all the possible upgrade parts, I think I am just more confused than when I started. This is probably because I over-think just about everything, because I want to get the best deal, as I hate spending more money than I need to!
I have three rifles that I am very interested in buying, and I need to get that three down to one!
The rifles in question:
Well MB08 (I love the externals, but I don't know a ton about the internals. Does it have a metal trigger box, and will it accept a PDI type-96 hopup unit?)
Javelin M24 (Seems like a pretty good rifle and is almost fully APS2 compatible. Have to get the specially designed PDI hopup, and I don't think that there's any other options.)
A&K M24 (looks like it has some great internals but it does have a VSR-10 hopup. Problem?)
Ease and cost of upgrade is very important to me! Accuracy (hopup and barrel) is what I want the most, with range being close behind. I'm all about getting the most out of my rifle without spending tons of money, keep that in mind.
With those things in mind, which should I choose and why? Thank you for your help.
I have three rifles that I am very interested in buying, and I need to get that three down to one!
The rifles in question:
Well MB08 (I love the externals, but I don't know a ton about the internals. Does it have a metal trigger box, and will it accept a PDI type-96 hopup unit?)
Javelin M24 (Seems like a pretty good rifle and is almost fully APS2 compatible. Have to get the specially designed PDI hopup, and I don't think that there's any other options.)
A&K M24 (looks like it has some great internals but it does have a VSR-10 hopup. Problem?)
Ease and cost of upgrade is very important to me! Accuracy (hopup and barrel) is what I want the most, with range being close behind. I'm all about getting the most out of my rifle without spending tons of money, keep that in mind.
With those things in mind, which should I choose and why? Thank you for your help.
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If you want help with a upgrade list I'd be more then happy to help.
If you are going to get the well mb08 then I would get the UTG instead.It is called the UTG MK96.
lol i wanted to ask exact the same. 
Thank you, I might just call upon you sometime soon for that!If you want help with a upgrade list I'd be more then happy to help.
Is there a reason behind your statement about the A&K? Have you seen the video on youtube about the internals? It's by Theonebbshop or something. He's foreign but you can see the internals and his tests the metal on the trigger unit.
And, yes, I know all about the MK96. I love the looks of the MB08, that is why I ask about it.
Well then, you are welcome! Haha!
Back to what I posted...
MB08 is metal, not Plastic LOL
Why the UTG MK96? I have owned both the WELL MB01 (L96) and the UTG MK96, and they are the exact same rifle, except that the UTG cost more, and had a nicer box. However, the original poster liked the MB08, as it has the folding stock, the fluted barrel with interesting flash hider, and the adjustable rear stand... none of which comes on the UTG.If you are going to get the well mb08 then I would get the UTG instead.It is called the UTG MK96.
If it were me, and I wanted the L96 look, I would go with the TSD SD96 (same as the UTG MK96) because it has a metal trigger box, and upgraded piston, spring and spring guide... for that matter, I am rather partial to the TSD SD97... same features, but the rifle sports a unique stock.
As for an M24 variant; get the CA for best replica, or get a JG BAR-10 for an M24 wannabee that has a slew of upgrade potential and support.
Shop around, because after all, it is only and airsoft rifle, and after spending a huge chunk of change upgrading one, in the end.... it is still just an airsoft rifle.
Be careful about listening to the hype that "you have to upgrade" a bolt action in order for it to be any good... why? because your airsoft rifle becomes a money-pit project that will suck the life out of your bank acount, and in the end you can't hardly sell the rifle for what you have in it.
My advice; buy a good rifle like the MB08 or the CA M24 or the TSD SD97 (my favorite) and accurize it. Sometimes just cleaning the rifle and tightening all of the screws will be all you need to do. Sometimes you will need a barrel and hop-up rubber... after that, just replace the parts as they break... this in and of itself is costly enough. The need for a triggerbox that costs %125 more than the actual cost of the rifle is rediculas... not for me.
My son owns a WELL MB01 that he bought three years ago. I cleaned it for him, and replaced the vaseline like grease with a good silicone grease, and then I teflon taped the known leaky areas... the rifle hits hard and accurate with the stock components, and it is easy on the arm to cycle the bolt... best $115 ever spent.
I digress, I'll let someone else poison your brain now, I'm all out...
I never had a good experience with A&K from their aegs to their springers. But if it tickles your fancy then go with A&K >Thank you, I might just call upon you sometime soon for that!
Is there a reason behind your statement about the A&K? Have you seen the video on youtube about the internals? It's by Theonebbshop or something. He's foreign but you can see the internals and his tests the metal on the trigger unit.
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Also Dragon64 summed up about everything for you, you don't need the UTG but I think the externals are a little more well done but for like $30 cheaper why not get the WELL. Just let me know what you decide to go with and I'll help you with the part list.
I know the gun has a ABS body and a metal barrel, but I'm 95% sure that the trigger box is plastic.MB08 is metal, not Plastic LOL
Thank you, Dragon!
I owned a JG BAR-10 at one time and upgraded it with a DBC 6.01mm barrel, firefly bucking, #14 o-ring on piston head, and DIY mods. It wasn't a bad rifle at all, I just want something different.
So, not much is known about the A&K, huh? This sucks! I might just have to give AirsoftGI a call and see what they think about it. I want to know what parts are compatible in the cylinder.
I hear that the Javelin has a pretty good operating system, but I wonder about that odd hopup and how well it can be tuned. What barrel does it take in stock form?
I will take a look at the TSD rifles, as I already have a bit.
I owned a JG BAR-10 at one time and upgraded it with a DBC 6.01mm barrel, firefly bucking, #14 o-ring on piston head, and DIY mods. It wasn't a bad rifle at all, I just want something different.
So, not much is known about the A&K, huh? This sucks! I might just have to give AirsoftGI a call and see what they think about it. I want to know what parts are compatible in the cylinder.
I hear that the Javelin has a pretty good operating system, but I wonder about that odd hopup and how well it can be tuned. What barrel does it take in stock form?
I will take a look at the TSD rifles, as I already have a bit.
I looked around and the A&K is APS2, but some people say it's a tight fit and others say it's flawless. As for the barrel it's stock length is about 480mm and I image the bore is average.Thank you, Dragon!
I owned a JG BAR-10 at one time and upgraded it with a DBC 6.01mm barrel, firefly bucking, #14 o-ring on piston head, and DIY mods. It wasn't a bad rifle at all, I just want something different.
So, not much is known about the A&K, huh? This sucks! I might just have to give AirsoftGI a call and see what they think about it. I want to know what parts are compatible in the cylinder.
I hear that the Javelin has a pretty good operating system, but I wonder about that odd hopup and how well it can be tuned. What barrel does it take in stock form?
I will take a look at the TSD rifles, as I already have a bit.
Thank you!
I also just checked out the TSD rifles (sd96 & sd97). They seem really nice, and I love the look of the SD97 and that fact that they do have a metal trigger box and a few upgraded parts! The cheapest I've found it is $150 at air rattle.
I also just checked out the TSD rifles (sd96 & sd97). They seem really nice, and I love the look of the SD97 and that fact that they do have a metal trigger box and a few upgraded parts! The cheapest I've found it is $150 at air rattle.
Well if your going to spend $150 on a TSD why not go for the UTG MK96? I know we went over this already but they're on sale right now. I don't know about the TSD but the MK96 comes with two mags and a bipod, granted the UTG doesn't have a metal trigger box but they hold up great.
UTG MK96
UTG MK96
Thank you, but I do not want that rifle.
Dragon, just watched your videos on youtube on the SD97. That thing is insane!! It shoots way too hot, plus it doesn't seem to be very consistent, so if I did get that rifle I would almost immediately downgrade the spring some. I probably won't buy that rifle right now, but if I do find a crazy good deal on it, I just might have to!
Dragon, just watched your videos on youtube on the SD97. That thing is insane!! It shoots way too hot, plus it doesn't seem to be very consistent, so if I did get that rifle I would almost immediately downgrade the spring some. I probably won't buy that rifle right now, but if I do find a crazy good deal on it, I just might have to!
Alright just thought I throw that out there. By the way you might not have to buy a new spring you could try cutting a coil or two to see if it lowers your FPS enough.
Looks like this is your second sniper rifle. Why a AK M24 when your previous Bar10 was better and more VSR10 compatible.
Do you want the L 96 or TM VSR style? Or you are willing to go the new super snipers that is also using the VSR10 platform?
Do you want the L 96 or TM VSR style? Or you are willing to go the new super snipers that is also using the VSR10 platform?
I want an M24 because that has always been one of my favorite rifles! It's simple, yet elegant. I just want to make sure that I'm getting the best one (most compatible, best constructed, best performing, etc.) out of the clones. Although I cannot help but love the look of a good Type-96 rifle, like the MB08!
If you want a look into a Javelin M24 build, look into my build thread on this section of the forum. Javelin M24 = Snow Wolf M24, except the SW is about $40-60 cheaper.
As for what I researched myself (and I did a lot), I find the Javelin to be pretty capable. I will be replacing the stock hop up unit down the road, as well as upgrading the barrel and basically everything in the gun. Parts are typically readily available, but there are some snags to getting it (like there are to all guns), such as barrel length issues (you have to get a specific barrel adapter that fits on the tapered SW/Jav M24 barrel if you want to use a longer barrel length).
http://www.airsoftsniperforum.com/showthread.php?t=5217
EDIT: I will be upgrading parts as they break, so once I get fed up with the hop up, i will replace it. Issue with the hop up is that it is missing a vital screw that keeps the adjustment arm in place while firing. Because of this, the arm jumps back in minute movements and changes the hop up inevitably. If you wanna go deep into this convo, PM me, and i'll answer any/all your questions!
As for what I researched myself (and I did a lot), I find the Javelin to be pretty capable. I will be replacing the stock hop up unit down the road, as well as upgrading the barrel and basically everything in the gun. Parts are typically readily available, but there are some snags to getting it (like there are to all guns), such as barrel length issues (you have to get a specific barrel adapter that fits on the tapered SW/Jav M24 barrel if you want to use a longer barrel length).
http://www.airsoftsniperforum.com/showthread.php?t=5217
EDIT: I will be upgrading parts as they break, so once I get fed up with the hop up, i will replace it. Issue with the hop up is that it is missing a vital screw that keeps the adjustment arm in place while firing. Because of this, the arm jumps back in minute movements and changes the hop up inevitably. If you wanna go deep into this convo, PM me, and i'll answer any/all your questions!
Yeah, I really wish that the Javelin M24 had the fluted barrel and was not oddly tapered. I mean, if I'm going to spend some money on another rifle I want to like it and be happy with the buy, you know?
Well you gotta compromise something at this price range haha
hahaAre you really sure you want a Javelin M24? http://www.airsoftsniperforum.com/showpost.php?p=54548&postcount=15Yeah, I really wish that the Javelin M24 had the fluted barrel and was not oddly tapered. I mean, if I'm going to spend some money on another rifle I want to like it and be happy with the buy, you know?
The Classic Army M24 is available in fluted (miltary version) and non fluted (civilian version) barrels, and that is APS2 if that would excite you.
Have you looked at bull barrel. More unique and badass!
http://www.x-fire.org/vsr10/e.vsr_bull_barrel_l_tr.html
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