[Monroe16]

Hi,
I play in Italy, max 1Joule for everyone.
My build has a Psionic Upgrades inner barrel and hop-up, which is considered the best in class here in italy.
Their technology says that the set works best with BB's between 0,30 and 0,4.
However, I think 0,38/0,40 is pretty weight for only 1 joule (correct me if I'm wrong) I was thinking to use bbs between 0,3 and 0,36.
I heard that BLS are the best, but I can't find many resellers in Italy.
The next best are Novritsch, so I was thinking to go for them.
If you have any other good brand (better than Novritsch or BLS), easily accessible in europe please let me know.
However, since I will pay a quite expensive delivery I would like to order just one weight, if there is one which would the "best". Which weight do you recommend for such weak spring? Or I need to try all the BB's between 0,3 and 0,4 and find the best myself?

Thank you.

 

[BlackDogAirsoft]

It depends on your barrel length and cylinder volume.

 

[Monroe16]

It depends on your barrel length and cylinder volume.

I have ESC works piston, spring guide and cylinder head.
The cylinder is the stock one of WELL MB03.
My barrel length is 303mm

 

[BlackDogAirsoft]

This thread should help: Cylinder:barrel ratios explained
Keep in mind that the MB03 cylinder is smaller in diameter than the standard vsr10 one.
By them way, how is the aiseal with the upgraded cylinder head?

 

[SiliconeSword]

I would suggest .32g for you.
ESC sells BBs I think, but Novritsch and BLS are proven to be great and may cost less.

 

[Monroe16]

This thread should help: Cylinder:barrel ratios explained
Keep in mind that the MB03 cylinder is smaller in diameter than the standard vsr10 one.
By them way, how is the aiseal with the upgraded cylinder head?

I tried to check that but I don’t know how to measure my barrel ratio.. Am I stupid?
Air seal is great, I upgraded the cylinder head with one with V shape inside, to have more power.

I would suggest .32g for you.
ESC sells BBs I think, but Novritsch and BLS are proven to be great and may cost less.

oh okay thank you I will look into his site, either I’ll go with Novritsch.
thank you!

 

[SiliconeSword]

You don't have to bother with cylinder to barrel ratio, you are at about the ideal ratio for 1J with any BBs.
That being said, you'll very likely like .32 the best.

 

[1tonne]

At 1 joule I would use either between 0.28-0.30gm. Barrel length of 500mm or there about.

 

[Monroe16]

You don't have to bother with cylinder to barrel ratio, you are at about the ideal ratio for 1J with any BBs.
That being said, you'll very likely like .32 the best.

Thank you.
I have been looking into this guide Magic Marker's BB Analysis
But all the best "Goldenball, Maruzen, Bastard, BLS" are not available here in italy (and europe). I tried to google them but impossible to find.
I think I must go with Novritsch, but when I compare it to the BBs on that google sheet, they look awful...

At 1 joule I would use either between 0.28-0.30gm. Barrel length of 500mm or there about.

My barrel is 303mm, my customizer said that it is the best for my barrel type and for our 1J

 

[PheonixKingZ]

I would suggest Novritsch. You can get a aluminum bottle of the bb weight of your choice, for under $15. (In most cases. Not sure how the shipping works were you live)

 

[Monroe16]

This thread should help: Cylinder:barrel ratios explained
Keep in mind that the MB03 cylinder is smaller in diameter than the standard vsr10 one.
By them way, how is the aiseal with the upgraded cylinder head?

I just calculated my barrel to cylinder ratio.
WELL MB03 cylinder has a diameter of 21.93mm and lenght of 275mm
My inner barrel has a diameter of 6.03mm and lenght of 303mm
The calculator on the post gives me 12:1 ratio.
Is this normal? Also, how do i find the correct BB for that ratio?

Thank you

 

[1tonne]

Here are the ratios for a normal VSR10. The WELL is only just a little less in cylinder volume and so I would just use these ratios.
0.3gm bb use a 554mm barrel (15821 mm^3) = 2.26:1
0.32gm bb use a 530mm barrel (15136 mm^3) = 2.36:1
0.36gm bb use a 500mm barrel (14279 mm^3) = 2.51:1
0.4gm bb use a 470mm barrel (13422 mm^3) = 2.67:1
0.43gm bb use a 430mm barrel (12279 mm^3) = 2.92:1
0.45gm bb use a 400mm Barrel (11423 mm^3) = 3.13:1

If you get a 500mm inner barrel then it will shoot any bb weight from 0.36gm downwards.
You may want to read this:

Advanced VSR Sniper Building Guide

Sniping can be hard especially if you have a stock standard gun. In fact, you will not have a chance if you use a standard gun. As soon as you fire, you will most likely have about 4-5 bb's heading your way before you can finish cycling your next round. Even if you think that you are out of...

www.airsoftsniperforum.com

 

[Skara]

You can source BLS bbs in Italy

 

[SiliconeSword]

I think I must go with Novritsch, but when I compare it to the BBs on that google sheet, they look awful...

My barrel is 303mm, my customizer said that it is the best for my barrel type and for our 1J

The others really aren't that much better, you'd barely notice a difference.

The whole cylinder to barrel ratio thing is about giving you the maximum FPS with that BB weight, meaning that you would have a bit less noise and have a lighter spring.
But at only 1 joule, it really doesn't matter as long as your barrel isn't too long.
The two advantages to your setup is that it is more maneuverable, and possibly more accurate depending on who you ask.

 

[Monroe16]

The others really aren't that much better, you'd barely notice a difference.

The whole cylinder to barrel ratio thing is about giving you the maximum FPS with that BB weight, meaning that you would have a bit less noise and have a lighter spring.
But at only 1 joule, it really doesn't matter as long as your barrel isn't too long.
The two advantages to your setup is that it is more maneuverable, and possibly more accurate depending on who you ask.

Okay, thank you very much. I’ll let you guys know as soon as I receive them.
I ordered 0,32 and 0,36 from Novritsch, to test which is better (the price difference on those 2 are incredible, I hope I find the 0,32 way better ahaha).

You can source BLS bbs in Italy

Oh thank you, from where? I searched everywhere but I can’t find any

 

[Skara]

Oh thank you, from where? I searched everywhere but I can’t find

Specna EDGE bbs are made by BLS

 

[Monroe16]

Specna EDGE bbs are made by BLS

Oh didn't know it was the same.
I though guys were refferring to those bbs with BLS on the front of the package.
Thank you!

 

[mangxan]

I tried to check that but I don’t know how to measure my barrel ratio.. Am I stupid?
Air seal is great, I upgraded the cylinder head with one with V shape inside, to have more power.




oh okay thank you I will look into his site, either I’ll go with Novritsch.
thank you!

BLS makes Nov bbs, just buy BLS and not pay extra for a name.

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[SiliconeSword]

The issue is that he could not find BLS BBs, but Novritsch were easily available.

In the future, I suggest that you read everything before posting, as this was already mentioned.

 

[mangxan]

The issue is that he could not find BLS BBs, but Novritsch were easily available.

In the future, I suggest that you read everything before posting, as this was already mentioned.

Don't be patronizing, you could have spent the time yourself to find him a retailer with an equitable brand. Here's VFC that'll be better then BLS .

https://www.reddit.com/r/airsoft/comments/mkksff

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