[Wolfgeorge]

Hi guys well I go today a used M24 civilian, it's been lightly used, the owner said it's only been skirmished twice and the overal condition agrees to that.

When I opened the box and tried to pull back the bolt it was stuck, it didn't move at all!
After 30-40 attempts I managed to pull it back, it looks like it has a stiffer spring in, as it's pretty hard to pull it back.
After a while I try to cycle the bolt one more time again the bolt didn't move.
As I was examine it I noticed the cylinder has a small play, is this normal?

I tried again but this time I was pulling and lifting the same time and the bolt came out! It has a bit of wear at the rear lower right section from the receiver.

Does any other has the same problem?
What do you suggest?

Thanks
Wolf

 

[woogie]

Take the rifle out of the stock.
Then take the trigger group off of the rifle.

You can then remove the cylinder from the rifle. Remove the cylinder head and take a look inside.

The spring guide may be bent causing the jams, or something may be bent or broken inside.




And this isn't the one that you sent me pics of a few weeks ago is it?

 

[Wolfgeorge]

Oh no man.... That was the PDI M24X, that was in UK and it's still for sale! I heard you and left it.

The one I got is from Greece and it's in very good shape externally.
This is the only problem.
I'll take it apart tomorrow if I find the time.


Wolf

 

[goldentrigun]

It could just be the sear is pushed to far over to one side and is rubbing on the cylinder wall. at least that was what was happening with mine.

 

[Wolfgeorge]

Actually I'm thinking it's something like that! I'm suspecting that's something going on with the sear.

I'll have to remove the trigger and see then.

How didi you fix it?

Wolf

 

[goldentrigun]

the sears are held in by a screw. There is a way to adjust them by turning said screw.

 

[Wolfgeorge]

Thanks I'll see tomorrow what I'll do.


Wolf

 

[woogie]

Check and make sure that the sides of the mech box are not to tight. If you do you can cause the sear to grind and hang up.

 

[Wolfgeorge]

I've check that and it's pretty tight!
I'm guessing it's something with the sear, I had seen one M24 ages ago but I don't remember anything.
So I'm inexperienced with it, I'm hopping to solve this by Sunday, I'm eager to try it!


Wolf

 

[Wolfgeorge]

Sooooo....
I've worked a bit with the gun, removed the trigger, tested everything, looked at the spring guide ( I didn't opened the bolt), reassembled everything and tried to test it.
I pull the bolt once and it was improved, I pull the bolt twice....
And this is the result:

I've left with a gun and a bolt handle!!
I've also lost one of the ballbearings!

What do you suggest ? I was thinking to buy a cylinder and bolt handle for APS2 with springs so I can have about 550fps, I'm also thinking to stuff in there an APS2 Zero Trigger.
Or should I look toward the PDI cylinder and bolt handle( I like the look of the M700 handle but at this point I want reliability!)

I don't know what's going on.... Spring rifles hates me!! :shrug:
I'm not lucky with the bolt handles!
I knew about the weird m24 handle but I thought it would last longer!
I haven't fired a single bb with it....!!

Please HELP...... !!

Wolf

 

[MiloXC3]

Maybe some parts just need a bit of teflon tape or lube to loosen/tighten things up. Or is it definitely something not working properly?

 

[MiloXC3]

the PDI Remmington bolt handle and cylinder set is decent. Really nice to pull too. Have a look at a second hand M24 bolt handle maybe if you don't want to spend a lot?

You must be really pissed off, I hope it works out for you in the end!

 

[wesley810]

IMO, you should keep the stock trigger unless (a) you dont like the heavy trigger pull or (b) you have the spare cash for it. Those stock mechs are pretty durable and should definitely hold up to the 550 FPS you're looking for.

I haven't really used PDI parts, but they're supposed to be good. I have used the LayLax and like them. I feel like they may be a little cheaper, but I would go for whatever is easiest for you to acquire or what is in stock. Sometimes I have trouble finding LayLax stuff in stock; especially all at one site.

 

[Wolfgeorge]

I'm really pissed about it....
I can't explain it... It's.... It's..... Never mind....

I prefer also Laylax but I'll have to order the parts from a million sites! So I'll go for PDI instead I'll order the parts from their site.
I'm going to use their SPR 3005 spring, with their precision cylinder and their bolt handle.

Do you suggest anything else?


Wolf

 

[woogie]

You don't need a new trigger I have had a few of these rifles up to 700 fps on the stock trigger mech.

As for the handle, just get a longer bolt and put it back together. You don't need the ball bearings in the handle, it will work just fine without them in there.

 

[Wolfgeorge]

You mean just the cylinder?

How will the bolt work with out them? Sorry for asking but I don't have experienced with it.


Wolf

 

[goldentrigun]

All the ball bearings do is give the handle a little resistance When you try to pull the handle up to cock the gun and vice versa on the way down.

Without the bearings the handle flops around a little but will work all the same.

 

[Wolfgeorge]

Thanks, I've fount an advanced cylinder set in a shop here in Greece, a friend can go and buy that for me but it's pretty expensive, almost the price I paid for the entire gun!

Is it worth it? I want so I can go with it at the game on Sunday ( if the weather is good enough)


Wolf

 

[woogie]

It is buy it isn't.

It is much like the cylinder sets for any other rifle. If there is nothing really wrong with the cylinder, then I would say to skip it. It may just be that a stock screw is to long and is grinding on the cylinder. Or could be something else inside of the cylinder as well.

 

[Wolfgeorge]

I don't think there's something wrong with the cylinder.
But the rear part break at the threads where the handle screw go!

I was too pissed off to look at it today but if I use longer screw I might be able to fix it temporalily.
I thought about using the new cylinder set for a few months till I buy finally the parts I like!
I can't buy those parts now, there are others priorities right now.

I've looked around at PDI's site (http://www.x-fire.org/e.index.htm).... Many stuff are discontinued!

Wolf