[toomanybbs]

*Instructions are listed throughout this thread, so I would suggest you read/skim everything.

Ok, so I have long been intriged by the idea of having a co2 rig for my Tanaka to give me some sprime consistency. So without further adue, here is my almost complete rig:

When I get all the parts I will drill and tap my mag and complete the rig, at which point I may make a guide, but for now im just showing off. This is super small by the way, as you can see by comparing it to the 29rnd tanaka mag.

Parts, i'll go by picture and from top to bottom:
PPS-Palmers Pursuit Shop
Pic 2:
1. 1/4 hose-PPS
2. 1/4 slip fit hose to 10-32 male fitting-PPS
3. Palmers Pursuit Micro Rock Regulator-Armory Paintball.com
4. 1/8NPT Street Elbow-PPS
5. 1/8NPT Female to Male extension-PPS
6. On/Off valve-Ebay

Pic 3:
1. Pic includes the top part of the on/off valve
2. Trinity Micro Gauge 200psi-Ebay
3. (can't be seen, under the gauge) 1/8NPT Female to Female-PPS
4. 1/8NPT street Elbow-PPS
5. 1/4 slip fit hose fitting to 1/8NPT female fitting-PPS
6. 1/4 hose(same piece as in Pic 2)

 

[toomanybbs]

Just finished teflon taping the parts I have:

Teflon used: white teflon tape-ACE hardware
Procedure:
3 raps per male thread
go with the threading, like you would screw something on to it
trim excess with sharp knife
make sure no teflon tape will get into the rig.
Then attach the fittings together
DO NOT teflon tape the parts with o-rings. This could create a leak because it will take up room that the o-ring would normally fill.

 

[reezo]

Awesome thread. A co2 rig is going to be a future upgrade which should really max out my Tanaka M40A1. Great choice of hardware you have there and carefully done, too!

I got an email from Craig Palmer last day. I was asking him about a pocket-sized co2 rig for my gas rifle and this is his reply:

Craig Palmer wrote:

- http://palmer-pursuit.com/cart/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=1_10&products_id=1146
- http://palmer-pursuit.com/cart/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=75&products_id=822
- http://palmer-pursuit.com/cart/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=1_10&products_id=21

Above is what I would use. The remote kit has all of the parts you
need except the elbow.

It might be useful for someone.

My question is: Your kit has a black cilinder that works as the "co2 cartridge holder". Is that a separate piece? Does this kit works with HPA bottles as well (just by screwing the top most part of the holder, without the cartridge holder of course)?

Thanks

 

[Cheese Man]

I am no expert, but with the palmers stuff, usually you can just remove the quick changer and screw in an HPA or CO2 bottle. The quick changer just screws into the place that a bottle would normally go.

 

[toomanybbs]

Awesome thread. A co2 rig is going to be a future upgrade which should really max out my Tanaka M40A1. Great choice of hardware you have there and carefully done, too!

I got an email from Craig Palmer last day. I was asking him about a pocket-sized co2 rig for my gas rifle and this is his reply:

Craig Palmer wrote:

- http://palmer-pursuit.com/cart/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=1_10&products_id=1146
- http://palmer-pursuit.com/cart/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=75&products_id=822
- http://palmer-pursuit.com/cart/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=1_10&products_id=21

Above is what I would use. The remote kit has all of the parts you
need except the elbow.

Thanks

That rig is going to be bigger than mine because your using a coiled hose which is fat and heavy and the tank cap is perpendicular to the reg so its not going to fit in a stock pouch like mine will.

My question is: Your kit has a black cilinder that works as the "co2 cartridge holder". Is that a separate piece?
Yes

Does this kit works with HPA bottles as well (just by screwing the top most part of the holder, without the cartridge holder of course)?
Yes, just don't buy the co2 quick change adapter. You might also need another 1/8NPT male to female extension inbetween the tank cap and the regulator because HPA bottles are fat and the 12g adapter is not fat.

Thanks

The two new pieces that arn't in the other pics are the 12g co2 adapter, if you want to go HPA you won't need either. They come as a set ALWAYS so don't worry and there cheap I bought the 12g adapter pieces fromebay for a $7.99 steal.

This pierces the cartridge to let out the co2, when you screw in the cylinder containing the cartridge

This is what a HPA tank, co2 tank, or 12g co2 quick change adapter's threads will look like. This screws into the tank cap.

 

[reezo]

Thanks for the replies! I am getting a better idea now. I hope this week I can get to install my new upgrades and then I'll start thinking about going HPA/co2 rig.

Great thread, again.

 

[toomanybbs]

Just recieved the last parts for my rig. So I will post pics of what it looks like and I will also list the new parts later on. Sadly i don't know when I will be able to tap my mag the co2 rig won't be completly done anytime soon.

 

[reezo]

Thanks! If getting the pieces is going to be hard/impossible for me.. you might have a client for another co2 rig

 

[awagg]

How much did you spend on these parts? Sorry to be lazy, but I'm just looking at tons of different options for my future gas rifle...

 

[toomanybbs]

Thanks! If getting the pieces is going to be hard/impossible for me.. you might have a client for another co2 rig

That would be pretty cool, although it took me like a month to gather the parts because of shipping from different places and scouring the AO for awesome deals.

How much did you spend on these parts? Sorry to be lazy, but I'm just looking at tons of different options for my future gas rifle...

$129.28, this includes the shipping and tax on all parts in my rig. Does not include the price of the tap, tap wrench, teflon tape, and drill bit.

 

[reezo]

You did a great job, not only in assembling the kit, but scouring the pieces and patiently waiting

 

[toomanybbs]

Ok so yesterday I recieved 3 parts from Mcmaster.com. These parts included

2-"Mini Nckl-pltd Brass Quick-disconnect Cplg, Plug, 1/8" Male Npt, Without Valve"
and
1-"Mini Nckl-pltd Brass Quick-disconnect Cplg, Socket, 1/8" Male Npt, With Valve"
To find these parts type in the part number, listed below, into the search bar at the top of the mcmastercarr website.

Male QD: 9414K62
Female QD: 9414K19

The female QD part is a "slide check" as well as a QD connector. A "slide check" works as an on/off valve, this stops you from losing a ton of air thats in your tank and rig when you want to switch mags or take everything apart for storage. Thus, instead of having a big bulky on/off valve, all I need is this QD female fitting.

I bought 2 males so that I could easily switch from my gauge to my mag, thus knowing exactly my output at the end of the hose

Connected to the gauge:

Conected to the mag fitting:

And of course I teflon taped all the male threads with 3 wraps, and trimmed the excess off.

Now all I have to do is cut the hose to length and then I will be able to see if it works by hooking it up to the gauge.

 

[toomanybbs]

Well I put a co2 cartridge in yesterday and it leaked massivly and was empty in under 30 seconds. Not a great start. Atleast i know it wasn't leaking out of the parts i teflon tapped; just the hose fittings. Any one have any knowledge of stopping slip fit hose fittinngs from leaking?

 

[woogie]

Push the hose in all the way

They should "click" when they get all the way in. I did the same thing in college, so don't worry...... though I had a ton of crap flying all over the place

 

[toomanybbs]

What is a good tool to cut the hose with?

 

[toomanybbs]

Update:

Ok well I figured out why the hose fittings were leaking. One wasn't pushed on far enough, and the other was destroyed; thanks to my obsession with pluging the hose in and then removing it. Also, I had sanded the edges of the macroline so that they would fit in the fittings smothly. This could have caused the leakings, so I replaced the sanded hose with a fresh piece, so we will see how that works.

I ordered 2 more of the 90deg. 10-32 to 1/4" hose fitting from Ebay. They should be here by Monday or Tuesday.

Also bought a chrono from Ebay, that should be here by Mon. or Tues. as well. Its a Chrony Alpha Chronograph. I got it for $70

I am yet to tap my mag, although my neighbor has offered; I have yet to follow up.

 

[toomanybbs]

So my neighbor is drilling and taping my mag sometime this week. He said to expect it finished by the end of the week, so....

The chrono has arrived and looks fantastic. Very sturdy I must say.

The 90deg 10-32 to 1/4" hose fittings are still in the mail, should be here mon.

Its all coming together!!!

 

[toomanybbs]

Got the fitting! works great! Just found out that the fiting on the other end of the hose is leaking! So I have to buy another one of those! It's the Palmers 1/4" to 1/8NPT fitting.

Note: Don't buy Palmer's slip fit hose fittings, they are no where as good as industrial one you can buy from Ebay for around the same price.

Also tested the quick change co2 adapter. Unless you tighten it with every muscle in your body, the co2 will backflow and come out of the adapter, so you have to really go for it when your tightening it.

Tested the Palmer's micro rock by having a gauge on the end of my rig. All I can say is WOW does it work well. You can easily adjust the PSI from 110 to 90 in less than half a turn. Great piece right there.

Neighbor is drilling and tapping mag sometime this week.

 

[MGunner]

Im helping a friend build an HPA rig, and do you have the part numbers for the Hose and fittings? fittings,

 

[toomanybbs]

Im helping a friend build an HPA rig, and do you have the part numbers for the Hose and fittings? fittings,

I don't have the part numbers, but here are the exact names from Palmers Pursuit Online store:

1 ea.
10-32 to 1/4 slip fit tube 90 elbow
$4.50

2 ea.
1/8 NPT Street 90 Elbow
$6.00

1 ea.
1/8 NPT Female to 1/8 NPT Male Extension