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CQB VSR / MB03 - Sniper Tech Noob asks for some advice

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Hello Sniper-Boys,

it really took me some willpower to start this thread in the world of the hidden long range kill-collectors, but after some searching and reading, this board seemed to be extremely fine and friendly compared to others out there, so I will just go for it.

Short introduction to not spam the intro forum unnecessary:
I am Matze, a 35 years old long time airsoft nerd from europe / germany. So I am not a native, forgive me all my spelling mistakes etc.
My gameplay might be the absolute prototype to what is opposite to most of yours, as I am mainly playing fast paced and indoors at evenings due to time issues for the last 3 years. I am always perfecting my guns, to a point where I started to develop my own ones, so I am not new to custom solutions at all. More info on that can be found on insta ( @ati_airsoft_ ) but I don't want to point this out, just to show I am really looking for some custom solutions and am not afraid of trying new things or following stupid ideas.

The idea:
So what is on my mind? I am playing indoors quite often as said and there are some days where - without any disrespect - players are just too unexperienced to compete at an even level. I am only playing HPA guns, so from time to time I locked my FCUs with sniper delay to make it more challenging and it's actually huge fun to play with those one taps and the knowledge that if you miss, you need to wait a moment and are open for counters.

That's where I started to think about a custom made HPA based CQB VSR10ish rifle.
I hope nobody died while reading this - or wants me to fall over dead. This concept is actually springer based quite popular in Japan I believe.

If you are still with me, here's what I carved out to be the plan and I hope to get confirmation, that something like this could work.
I am looking for a VSR or MB03 Lower as I want the externals to be at least slightly close and clean to one of those classic snipers for now. Straight pull wolverine bolt engine with 3d printed reload mechanism that might reach down at the side of the rifle, so you can reload with just taking the trigger finger of and pulling back.
All of my guns are aiming at functionality and light weight. So I was planing on printing most parts needed besides tech (cylinder, bolt, HU, barrel) and stock in Nylon PA12 by using SLS. That means I would like to print the receiver (which should offer a wider field of solution for custom bolt pulls and red dot mounts), trigger unit and trigger guard. Trigger unit should only be needed to hold trigger, switch and as kind of a "spacer" between stock and receiver if I get this right. I would go for a custom solution there, develop an own switch position and trigger...these are the things I do on basically all builds. Outer Barrel I would go for a carbon tube - because I just like carbon. Who doesn't?
Also I would try to develop and print slightly bigger mags for a little more capacity, not interested in M4 adapters or stuff like that...

What is holding me back on starting all of this?
Actually my experience with sniper rifles. I am a dead beginner at this point, even though I got some deep knowledge of AEG and HPA Systems sniper rifles are completely new for me. So I am basically most afraid that I am missing some stability function of the trigger unit even when using the bolt engine.

So my questions are:
  • Does this sound doable to you?
  • Is there a rough imagination of weight that might be achieved with this build? My latest SMG build weighs 599g ready to play with F2, FCU, Battery, RMR clone and 290mm steel inner installed. So I am a little spoiled when it comes to weight...
  • Am I missing something obvious? I am not afraid of tinkering and finding solutions, but maybe there is a point where I just completely missed the point.
  • Are those MB03 or VSR10 stocks already quite heavy? Are there way lighter solutions? Printed ones? Would even develop something myself there over time if needed.

If you stayed with me and read all of this until here I want to thank you very much, as I feel there might have been some moments and points where most of you cringed very hard because of the misuse of your favorite rifles. Thanks for staying strong. Really looking forward to any kind of advice!

best regards,
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I'm not familiar with HPA, but I don't know about the idea of a bolt action HPA'ed with CQB in mind.

Other than lighter pull (which with CQB bolt action in mind, you don't want high power, therefore not using heavy spring) and quite noise (and with a weak spring it's not hard to do), I don't think there's any merit HPAing it.

Straight pull mod is also pretty easy to do, as long as you aren't looking for high realism where the gun won't fire before you completely lock it in battery.

But again this comes from someone who has never touched an HPA.

Or if you want to do it just for the sake of it, then be my guest.

Edit : Right, about capacity, does 50 sounds plenty enough? Archwick made a 50 capacity mag for VSR for quite cheap and reliable. I guess you could go for it rather than designing and do trial-and-error, which may not worth the time. Cyma also made 55 round capacity for cheaper if I remember, though I heard it's not really reliable.

Also, if wallet is not of your concern, you might want to try to check Silverback TAC-41A. Change the barrels, both inner and outer, for the shorter one and I think it would be compact enough to be used as a CQB bolty. With realistic mag position, making you easier to modify it in order to use your trigger finger to release the mag, plus with 100++ capacity it definitely gives you an advantage on a fast paced game.
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