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Custom 90� VSR trigger

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Custom 90° VSR trigger (S-trigger)

LATEST VERSION S-trigger v.7



I hope that you don't forget on my S-trigger :).

It takes me some time to figure out what I want from the new trigger.

It is mostly:
  • Preserved safety function ( its challenge in this design )
  • Zero need of modification to the gun or trigger guard ( my priority )
  • Simply as possible
  • Robust and durable
  • Versatility ( TM VSR/TM L96 in one package )
  • Some adjustability ( length of trigger pull )
  • Light trigger pull ( even better than on last version )

I have prototype of a new S-trigger v.7 on which I am testing above-mentioned.
Its not the final design, needs some tweaking but is not far from that.

How much I wanted to makes it different from ZERO trigger. I spent a month by trying to make it completely different :) In the end its almost from 30% Zero trigger. Internally its almost completely redesigned. Less complex and easier to manufacture.

Stay tuned for news

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Info for Older version of the trigger ( v.6 ) below in code
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[B]For[/B] these who don't know my trigger , I call him [U]S-trigger[/U]. Functionally is based on Noobies M-trigger. So if there anybody who still trying to find some M-triggers for sale , I can offer you my S-trigger which has all features of M-trigger and something more.


[B]Advantage[/B] of my trigger beside other after market triggers is preserved function of [U]safety[/U] [only my S-trigger and V-trigger has safety].

For example on stock JG BAR-10 spring is trigger pull weight on my S-trigger [U]1,5 lb[/U]. and on V-trigger [U]4,5 lb[/U]. 

[B]It[/B] is simple 90 degree design focused on durability. All steel construction of trigger is ready for strongest upgrades available on market. 

[U][B]Trigger pull weight[/B][/U]

Average trigger pull weight on my S-trigger is 1.5 lb.
[url=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uYyk44FLK1U?t=20s]trigger pull measuring - YouTube[/url]

[U][B]Trigger guard modification[/B][/U]

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[B]S-trigger[/B] is compatible with all after-market 90 degree pistons.
- [URL="http://www.uncompany.com/pageproductdetails.asp?prodid=22983"]Laylax[/URL]
- [URL="http://www.uncompany.com/pageproductdetails.asp?prodid=33620"]King Arms[/URL]
- [URL="http://shop.ehobbyasia.com/upgrade-part/parts-upgrade-rifle/cylinders-pistons/action-vsr-10-piston-with-stainless-steel-rear-end.html"]Action[/URL]
- [URL="http://www.x-fire.org/vsr10/e.vsr_pistonend.html"]PDI[/URL] (for conversion of standard 45 degree PDI piston)
- [URL="http://edgicustom.blogspot.sk/2008/01/jg-bar-10-upgrades.html"]Edgi[/URL]
- [URL="http://rangerscustoms.wix.com/rangerscustoms"]Ranger[/URL]

[U][B]Materials[/B][/U]

Sides: Aluminum
Piston sear: Stainless steel (Heat Treatment)
Pins: 4mm cold rolled steel
Thread inserts: Tappex Microbarb® M4 (brass)
Spring: 0,5 mm
Other parts: Stainless steel
Magnet : M35 (10x3mm)

[URL=http://s1260.photobucket.com/user/Gersprin/media/S-trigger/WP_20140725_006%20800x600_zpswtdf2g7n.jpg.html][IMG]http://i1260.photobucket.com/albums/ii566/Gersprin/S-trigger/WP_20140725_006%20800x600_zpswtdf2g7n.jpg[/IMG][/URL]
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[URL=http://s1260.photobucket.com/user/Gersprin/media/S-trigger/WP_20140725_20_04_01_Pro%20800x600_zps6cxiogxa.jpg.html][IMG]http://i1260.photobucket.com/albums/ii566/Gersprin/S-trigger/WP_20140725_20_04_01_Pro%20800x600_zps6cxiogxa.jpg[/IMG][/URL]

EXPLODED VIEW

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I know there are some users of my trigger. If anybody of them notice this thread, please let me know if you are satisfied with them or not. Thanks.
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Oops, spent all my money. Don't expect me to buy and review the trigger yet. :(
Oops, spent all my money. Don't expect me to buy and review the trigger yet. :(
You may buy one from new batch :) sometime.
I'm going to be doing a review on the S-Trigger and also on Rangers 90 degree piston. I ordered both last night so we'll see how well they mesh together =)
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Thanks Tj, that'd be great. Will have your order done and shipped in a day or two. Thanks buddy.
I also looking forward to this review
Hey pavol good to see the triggers doing well. To any one looking to buy one of these triggers I can vouch for their durabillity. I've owned mine for nearly 2 years now i've approx put 40+k shots through my gun with this trigger most of which running varied fps between 450fps rite up to 860fps with the pdi ss5000 spring which i shot 2k of .29sgm's with. As to date i've only had to replace a couple of sear return springs which i put down to extreme usage with hardly any sign of wear to piston sear alough i did order 3 spare just incase it eventually wears out but its going to be a long time before i can see that happening so i thank you springer (pavol) for your outstanding trigger. hope my 2nd post is ok regards bigguns
Hey pavol good to see the triggers doing well. To any one looking to buy one of these triggers I can vouch for their durabillity. I've owned mine for nearly 2 years now i've approx put 40+k shots through my gun with this trigger most of which running varied fps between 450fps rite up to 860fps with the pdi ss5000 spring which i shot 2k of .29sgm's with. As to date i've only had to replace a couple of sear return springs which i put down to extreme usage with hardly any sign of wear to piston sear alough i did order 3 spare just incase it eventually wears out but its going to be a long time before i can see that happening so i thank you springer (pavol) for your outstanding trigger. hope my 2nd post is ok regards bigguns
Hi, Luke your second post is more than good :yup:. And its good to hear that trigger works well after so many shots. I am don't getting feedback from many people. I'm thinking that, when they do not say anything, so it probably works well.
For some reason I cannot get your website to format correctly on my work pc, so I cannot really view any information. It appears that everything is off to the far right out of view. I'm running a not up to date version of internet explorer on this computer so that might be it.

I'm extremely excited to research this when I get home, though.
For some reason I cannot get your website to format correctly on my work pc, so I cannot really view any information. It appears that everything is off to the far right out of view. I'm running a not up to date version of internet explorer on this computer so that might be it.

I'm extremely excited to research this when I get home, though.
Yes, it is not ideal. site is probably wider than usual. Its free service, there is not so much optimization options. But I think on newer browser it must work proper.
Just placed an order! i'll make a review as soon as i test it out. Cant wait!
What is the wait time on these triggers? Are they built and ready to go? or is there a few week wait period while you make them?
Nope he shipped mine the day I paid. Fast response too.
What is the wait time on these triggers? Are they built and ready to go? or is there a few week wait period while you make them?
I produce them in batches for 10 to 20 pieces and then sell. When a batch sold out, I do new within two weeks. It will be also shown on my website.
Just sent an order :)

Will do a quick review when I get it
Just sent an order :)

Will do a quick review when I get it
Have it , I try to send it tomorrow. Your order was probably last from this batch ;-)
I have got most of semi-finished products for triggers. In the near future we will begin with modifying them, and assembly.

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I remember talking to you on another forum about getting a few of these.... and as time went on I forgot about them to be honest. When I do get my VSR rilfe again I will try and get one this time from ya.

Just need to get another bolt action first.
Yes I remember on you woogie. I will be happy when you remember on me when you get this rifle.
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Review:

Initial impression:
Everything looked perfect and more durable than the stock trigger box 100 fold. The material is sturdy and the screws aren't coming out by themselves, that's for sure. One thing I noticed was that the spring guide pin was connected to the actual trigger box which is a nice feature. Overall, it's a well built, durable, universal (you'll see why in a second), sweet looking trigger box.



In comparison

Installing:
As I went to install, I filed the trigger guard down like mentioned in the instructions. Once it fit, I put my Laylax Teflon cylinder in the receiver and then screwed the trigger box down and then the trigger guard. Everything looked ready to go. I assembled the rifle, pulled the bolt back and nothing... It wouldn't lock in place. But I was determined to figure out why. So I started trouble shooting and the problem was not the s-trigger. The problem was the spring guide. Unfortunately, Edgi's spring guide didn't work with the Laylax piston. This is because the Laylax piston was too short and the spring guide didn't go in all the way. Here's some pictures so you can see what I mean:

This is with the spring guide in:





As you can see, the edgi spring guide is a bit longer than the stock.
This doesn't allow the trigger sear to catch the piston which is why it wouldn't lock.
Thus you have two options, grind the edgi spring guide to the stock length. Or you can get a new spring guide that's stock length.

But!!! Being persistent pays off. as I looked closer at the edgi piston, it looked different than other 45 degree pistons. Yes it has a 45 degree edge on it but it also has a 90 degree on the inside of the ring. Making it the first, unintentional or intentional, I'm not sure, hybrid piston!!! So I decided to test it out, I put the edgi piston, Laylax m150 spring, and edgi spring guide into my Laylax Teflon cylinder. Installed the s-trigger and assembled the rifle.
Sure enough!, it worked like a charm! I even jiggled it around to see if it would slip off but it doesn't. I will continue to test and see if any damage is done to the piston or the trigger. But as of now, I just got really lucky hahah.

Let me know what you guys think or if you have any input!

Springer for your website review:

Overall, the s-trigger has exceeded my expectations. The high quality, durable, and sleek finish has definitely won me over. In comparison to an upgraded edgi stock trigger box, the s-trigger, hands down surpasses the performance. Money well spent and worth every penny. I would highly recommend this to anyone who is looking for custom top quality products for their bar-10!
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Just got my S-Trigger in the mail today and am waiting on getting my rifle back from Cheeseman Industries (supposed ETA was Wednesday, but I'm still waiting. Hopefully by this weekend.) Once I get it, I'll be swapping it out with my V-trigger and I'll post a review then. Definitely like the initial look over though.
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