I planned to post it actually. The more I look at your trigger box, the more I want one,lol.. This thing is nice!
Custom 90� VSR trigger
Custom 90° VSR trigger (S-trigger)
LATEST VERSION S-trigger v.7
I hope that you don't forget on my S-trigger
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It takes me some time to figure out what I want from the new trigger.
It is mostly:
I have prototype of a new S-trigger v.7 on which I am testing above-mentioned.
Its not the final design, needs some tweaking but is not far from that.
How much I wanted to makes it different from ZERO trigger. I spent a month by trying to make it completely different In the end its almost from 30% Zero trigger. Internally its almost completely redesigned. Less complex and easier to manufacture.
Stay tuned for news
You can also follow me on Facebook , Instagram and Youtube.
Info for Older version of the trigger ( v.6 ) below in code
LATEST VERSION S-trigger v.7
I hope that you don't forget on my S-trigger
.It takes me some time to figure out what I want from the new trigger.
It is mostly:
- Preserved safety function ( its challenge in this design )
- Zero need of modification to the gun or trigger guard ( my priority )
- Simply as possible
- Robust and durable
- Versatility ( TM VSR/TM L96 in one package )
- Some adjustability ( length of trigger pull )
- Light trigger pull ( even better than on last version )
I have prototype of a new S-trigger v.7 on which I am testing above-mentioned.
Its not the final design, needs some tweaking but is not far from that.
How much I wanted to makes it different from ZERO trigger. I spent a month by trying to make it completely different
In the end its almost from 30% Zero trigger. Internally its almost completely redesigned. Less complex and easier to manufacture.Stay tuned for news
You can also follow me on Facebook , Instagram and Youtube.
Info for Older version of the trigger ( v.6 ) below in code
Code:
[B]For[/B] these who don't know my trigger , I call him [U]S-trigger[/U]. Functionally is based on Noobies M-trigger. So if there anybody who still trying to find some M-triggers for sale , I can offer you my S-trigger which has all features of M-trigger and something more.
[B]Advantage[/B] of my trigger beside other after market triggers is preserved function of [U]safety[/U] [only my S-trigger and V-trigger has safety].
For example on stock JG BAR-10 spring is trigger pull weight on my S-trigger [U]1,5 lb[/U]. and on V-trigger [U]4,5 lb[/U].
[B]It[/B] is simple 90 degree design focused on durability. All steel construction of trigger is ready for strongest upgrades available on market.
[U][B]Trigger pull weight[/B][/U]
Average trigger pull weight on my S-trigger is 1.5 lb.
[url=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uYyk44FLK1U?t=20s]trigger pull measuring - YouTube[/url]
[U][B]Trigger guard modification[/B][/U]
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[B]S-trigger[/B] is compatible with all after-market 90 degree pistons.
- [URL="http://www.uncompany.com/pageproductdetails.asp?prodid=22983"]Laylax[/URL]
- [URL="http://www.uncompany.com/pageproductdetails.asp?prodid=33620"]King Arms[/URL]
- [URL="http://shop.ehobbyasia.com/upgrade-part/parts-upgrade-rifle/cylinders-pistons/action-vsr-10-piston-with-stainless-steel-rear-end.html"]Action[/URL]
- [URL="http://www.x-fire.org/vsr10/e.vsr_pistonend.html"]PDI[/URL] (for conversion of standard 45 degree PDI piston)
- [URL="http://edgicustom.blogspot.sk/2008/01/jg-bar-10-upgrades.html"]Edgi[/URL]
- [URL="http://rangerscustoms.wix.com/rangerscustoms"]Ranger[/URL]
[U][B]Materials[/B][/U]
Sides: Aluminum
Piston sear: Stainless steel (Heat Treatment)
Pins: 4mm cold rolled steel
Thread inserts: Tappex Microbarb® M4 (brass)
Spring: 0,5 mm
Other parts: Stainless steel
Magnet : M35 (10x3mm)
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EXPLODED VIEW
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Just finished making the S Trigger work with the M28.
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I only needed to take off a little from both the trigger box and the trigger guard for these to work together.
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As you can see, I only needed to smooth out two small easy spots on the guard..
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The trigger sear SLIGHTLY touches the latch on the door for the magwell. Its so little there is a slight tap sound and the door moves ever so slightly. I shaved a little off the bottom of the trigger sear and its good to go. "This mod makes no change to the great strength or function of the trigger box" Just dont cut too much and get too close to the trigger rod hole.. DONT LET YOUR DREMEL RUN FROM YOU. If it catches and starts to run "grab" pull up right away,lol..
Only things you will need for this is.
Dremel.
Cut off disk
Sharpie marker or whatever..
Tape measure or something to measure with.
I suggest fully mounting the S Trigger to the reciever when cutting, for better grip, and getting something to grind out the corners of the cut better cause mine look a little sloppy, but I dont have a way to clean the corners right now.
Now more of my thoughts on the S Trigger.
This is a VERY solid unit, I feel a 45 degree piston sear for those who want it would be a good idea.
I have not held any other Zero Trigger type units before, but I can say I strongly suggest this trigger unit to everyone! I cant wait till I can afford one for my personal M28,haha.
I only needed to take off a little from both the trigger box and the trigger guard for these to work together.
As you can see, I only needed to smooth out two small easy spots on the guard..
The trigger sear SLIGHTLY touches the latch on the door for the magwell. Its so little there is a slight tap sound and the door moves ever so slightly. I shaved a little off the bottom of the trigger sear and its good to go. "This mod makes no change to the great strength or function of the trigger box" Just dont cut too much and get too close to the trigger rod hole.. DONT LET YOUR DREMEL RUN FROM YOU. If it catches and starts to run "grab" pull up right away,lol..
Only things you will need for this is.
Dremel.
Cut off disk
Sharpie marker or whatever..
Tape measure or something to measure with.
I suggest fully mounting the S Trigger to the reciever when cutting, for better grip, and getting something to grind out the corners of the cut better cause mine look a little sloppy, but I dont have a way to clean the corners right now.
Now more of my thoughts on the S Trigger.
This is a VERY solid unit, I feel a 45 degree piston sear for those who want it would be a good idea.
I have not held any other Zero Trigger type units before, but I can say I strongly suggest this trigger unit to everyone! I cant wait till I can afford one for my personal M28,haha.
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I am tested today 45° piston sear in my trigger. All what can I say is " it works "
I also put in standard VSR 45° trigger box, just to make sure it works equally to my 45° conversion S-trigger.
And conclusion : both 45° trigger work the same.
If anybody wants this modification I can make it but I think it is awful. After 3 years of using 90° trigger I forgot how bad is this 45° system. Bolt pull back to receiver is terrifying , I think something must be wrong with my 45° piston sear, but standard VSR trigger has exactly the same bolt pull weight.
I measured power needed to pull bolt back (with trigger pull scale) and here are results :
- S-trigger 45° - 6,5 lb (2,95kg)
- VSR10 45° trigger - 6,5lb (2,95kg)
- S-trigger 90° - 1lb (0,45kg)
Tested on stock JG spring and piston
Attachments
Ok so I finally got around to installing the s trigger in my m28.
First you have to drill out the mounting holes as mentioned to 5/32". I disassembled the trigger box for the cutting.
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Those are in mm. The 13 is from the leading edge (also where the 10mm starts) along the base so when you connect the 10mm and 13mm it's at an angle. It's 9mm tall for the cut.
Now it should look like this
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I also trimmed the catch for the bar 10 trigger guard. Then I reassembled the trigger. While I'm at this stage I will point out I'm even more impressed with this trigger! Very little details that were added to the trigger that add a nice touch.
Once everything is trimmed and assembled, before you can drop your trigger guard in, you have to trim two spots
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The two bump outs need to be ground flush to the wall. And also taken down all the way to the top of the door plate release button. While I was at it I trimmed a little off the release button too (~1/16")
Once that's trimmed you can reassemble the rifle. Here is some pics of those bump outs after I ground them down.
Trigger at rest
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Trigger fully pulled back.
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It's hard to see in the pic but I have probably 3/32"- 1/8" clearance between the trigger arm and the release button. As a note if you didn't take enough off the sides, deep enough, you won't be able to fire the weapon. Over all this thing is amazing! I can't wait to get into a game with it!!
First you have to drill out the mounting holes as mentioned to 5/32". I disassembled the trigger box for the cutting.
Those are in mm. The 13 is from the leading edge (also where the 10mm starts) along the base so when you connect the 10mm and 13mm it's at an angle. It's 9mm tall for the cut.
Now it should look like this
I also trimmed the catch for the bar 10 trigger guard. Then I reassembled the trigger. While I'm at this stage I will point out I'm even more impressed with this trigger! Very little details that were added to the trigger that add a nice touch.
Once everything is trimmed and assembled, before you can drop your trigger guard in, you have to trim two spots
The two bump outs need to be ground flush to the wall. And also taken down all the way to the top of the door plate release button. While I was at it I trimmed a little off the release button too (~1/16")
Once that's trimmed you can reassemble the rifle. Here is some pics of those bump outs after I ground them down.
Trigger at rest
Trigger fully pulled back.
It's hard to see in the pic but I have probably 3/32"- 1/8" clearance between the trigger arm and the release button. As a note if you didn't take enough off the sides, deep enough, you won't be able to fire the weapon. Over all this thing is amazing! I can't wait to get into a game with it!!
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