Another update my s-trigger is up to 53.5k as of this weekend. Still using original piston sear.
[B]For[/B] these who don't know my trigger , I call him [U]S-trigger[/U]. Functionally is based on Noobies M-trigger. So if there anybody who still trying to find some M-triggers for sale , I can offer you my S-trigger which has all features of M-trigger and something more. [B]Advantage[/B] of my trigger beside other after market triggers is preserved function of [U]safety[/U] [only my S-trigger and V-trigger has safety]. For example on stock JG BAR-10 spring is trigger pull weight on my S-trigger [U]1,5 lb[/U]. and on V-trigger [U]4,5 lb[/U]. [B]It[/B] is simple 90 degree design focused on durability. All steel construction of trigger is ready for strongest upgrades available on market. [U][B]Trigger pull weight[/B][/U] Average trigger pull weight on my S-trigger is 1.5 lb. [url=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uYyk44FLK1U?t=20s]trigger pull measuring - YouTube[/url] [U][B]Trigger guard modification[/B][/U] [URL=http://s1260.photobucket.com/user/Gersprin/media/S-trigger/2_zpsvkx4ofxa.jpg.html][IMG]http://i1260.photobucket.com/albums/ii566/Gersprin/S-trigger/th_2_zpsvkx4ofxa.jpg[/IMG][/URL] [URL=http://s1260.photobucket.com/user/Gersprin/media/S-trigger/1_zps4wqhuus1.jpg.html][IMG]http://i1260.photobucket.com/albums/ii566/Gersprin/S-trigger/th_1_zps4wqhuus1.jpg[/IMG][/URL] [B]S-trigger[/B] is compatible with all after-market 90 degree pistons. - [URL="http://www.uncompany.com/pageproductdetails.asp?prodid=22983"]Laylax[/URL] - [URL="http://www.uncompany.com/pageproductdetails.asp?prodid=33620"]King Arms[/URL] - [URL="http://shop.ehobbyasia.com/upgrade-part/parts-upgrade-rifle/cylinders-pistons/action-vsr-10-piston-with-stainless-steel-rear-end.html"]Action[/URL] - [URL="http://www.x-fire.org/vsr10/e.vsr_pistonend.html"]PDI[/URL] (for conversion of standard 45 degree PDI piston) - [URL="http://edgicustom.blogspot.sk/2008/01/jg-bar-10-upgrades.html"]Edgi[/URL] - [URL="http://rangerscustoms.wix.com/rangerscustoms"]Ranger[/URL] [U][B]Materials[/B][/U] Sides: Aluminum Piston sear: Stainless steel (Heat Treatment) Pins: 4mm cold rolled steel Thread inserts: Tappex Microbarb® M4 (brass) Spring: 0,5 mm Other parts: Stainless steel Magnet : M35 (10x3mm) [URL=http://s1260.photobucket.com/user/Gersprin/media/S-trigger/WP_20140725_006%20800x600_zpswtdf2g7n.jpg.html][IMG]http://i1260.photobucket.com/albums/ii566/Gersprin/S-trigger/WP_20140725_006%20800x600_zpswtdf2g7n.jpg[/IMG][/URL] [URL=http://s1260.photobucket.com/user/Gersprin/media/S-trigger/WP_20140725_20_04_43_Pro%20800x600_zpsidhsul5i.jpg.html][IMG]http://i1260.photobucket.com/albums/ii566/Gersprin/S-trigger/WP_20140725_20_04_43_Pro%20800x600_zpsidhsul5i.jpg[/IMG][/URL] [URL=http://s1260.photobucket.com/user/Gersprin/media/S-trigger/WP_20140725_20_04_01_Pro%20800x600_zps6cxiogxa.jpg.html][IMG]http://i1260.photobucket.com/albums/ii566/Gersprin/S-trigger/WP_20140725_20_04_01_Pro%20800x600_zps6cxiogxa.jpg[/IMG][/URL] EXPLODED VIEW [URL=http://s1260.photobucket.com/user/Gersprin/media/S-trigger/explode_zps8mupc9fk.jpg.html][IMG]http://i1260.photobucket.com/albums/ii566/Gersprin/S-trigger/th_explode_zps8mupc9fk.jpg[/IMG][/URL] I know there are some users of my trigger. If anybody of them notice this thread, please let me know if you are satisfied with them or not. Thanks.
My best tester :yup:Another update my s-trigger is up to 53.5k as of this weekend. Still using original piston sear.
What do you expect from trigger ? You can write here functions which are important for you and I can help you decide.Anyone compared this to the Laylax PSS10 Zero trigger?
Can't decide between Laylax Zero trigger and piston, or S-trigger and Ranger's piston. I'll probably go with the latter.
At that FPS you will be more than satisfied. It lasts century on that FPS.Just looking for a sturdy and reliable trigger that will survive for a long time in a gun shooting at 450fps (on .2g).
Decided to go with the S-trigger though, when I get round to buying a trigger anyway.
haha! I agree.. The rifle will fall apart before these trigger boxes give out.. I have been holding and admiring them all day today so far!At that FPS you will be more than satisfied. It lasts century on that FPS.
Hi, thank you for critics. So let me tell you something too.Well today my S-trigger arrived and I have installed them now. My first impression was quite ok. There are some things that need to be improved.
Compared to M-Trigger V1 the S-Trigger looks unprofessional made -> all hand made so I think replacement parts will be difficult (all parts are not the same -> need modification or whole box need to be sent to slovakia.
One major thing is that the bottom side of the box is not round up to perfect fit to the receiver. M-trigger solve this by placing the 3 pieces of the shell (sandwich) in a triangle form -> innerpart plate is positioned litte bit inside so that both outershell is sticking out. In that case you have 2 points that stabilize the box instead of one point.
I hope you unterstood what I mean.
The trigger pull of the S-Trigger is ligther than the M-Trigger V1 / V2.
Is it worth the money? I think yes unless you already have a M-Trigger
Dont get me wrong: I just want to give you some feedback where you can improve your product.
Piston sear in this configuration will last very long time (years), as you can see few post above (53k+ shoots and piston sear does not show any noticeable wear. I goes trough many versions of piston sear (thicker) and this is the best version.My initial thoughts....
Being the owner of ASPUK we already reatail our own "EZ Trggers" however they have similar trigger pull to the stock trigger. We built ours for reliability and sturdyness. Medium Trigger pull is acceptable.
Springer has sent me a sample as i'm looking to add an alternative option with similar light trigger pull characteristics as the Laylax Zero Trigger.
I am yet to fit the sample to a rifle to test however my initial thoughts are:
Tip of piston sear is quite thin, would this wear down quickly? Could the tip be made slightly thinker to add longevity to the sears life?
Crudely made? Yes, a little. The S-Trigger doesn't have the refined edges of some other triggers out there however I can see beyond this as i'm after something that is going to be very robust.
I noticed the top edge of the trigger is flat. Not rounded to fit the shape of the receiver. Our EZ Triggers don't have this nor do Laylax so i don't think this is an issue.
Trigger pull: TBC, however from my experience it seems very light, prob just a tad off the Laylax Zero Trigger. I've never tested an M-Trig so cannot compare.
I'll respond further once i've tested the trigger.