[FelixTheGreat]

Hey guys,

I've been looking around the forum and I was wondering if anyone had done a side by side comparison of a few different m24s? I'm looking to buy one and was wondering which would be the cheapest, but best offer. A couple of the guns I was looking at are below with links to airsoftgi.

Javelin M24
(http://www.airsoftgi.com/product_info.php?cPath=139_113&products_id=7140)

A&K M24
(http://www.airsoftgi.com/product_info.php?cPath=139_113&products_id=10673)

Echo 1 M28
(http://www.airsoftgi.com/product_info.php?cPath=139_113&products_id=7404)

UK Arms M24
(http://www.airsoftgi.com/product_info.php?cPath=139_113&products_id=8582)

Classic Army M24
(http://www.airsoftgi.com/product_info.php?cPath=139_113&products_id=6216)

From what I can tell, the Classic Army is the mother, with the others being clones. I know the E1M28 has piston and sears problems as of now, but has a pretty alright external build. I haven't heard anything about the UK, Jav, or A&K though, so I can't really say anything about them.

Can anyone give me any insight regarding build quality, APS-2 compatability, and ease of acquisition (Places in Stock)?

Thank you
-Felix

 

[TYSONtheSNIPER]

As far as I know the UK Arms and the Echo 1 are the same OEM, meaning they have similar if not the same build quality. That would also mean they have the same problems (piston, hopup unit, sears). Some of the problems are being solved, example: ~Ranger~ making his replacement pistons. But as far as I know the hopup unit is still proprietary.

I don't have any knowledge on the A&K so unfortunately I can't help you out there.

The Classic Army in my eyes is the best. The bolt and bolt internals are APS2 compatible. The stock sears are of great quality. The hopup unit allows AEG cut barrels and AEG buckings. However it has its problems, the magazines are a really tight fit and once your out of bb's they can get broken if you push the bolt in to hard. I've heard that the hopup unit has trouble with heavier bb's. The bolt handle tends to need replacement due to a bad bearing.

However the build quality of the Classic Army is Amazing. The stock is a solid chunk of polymer plastic. The metal is very thick and strong.

And the Javelin/snow wolf would probably be my next choice. Although still lacking in quality compared to the Classic Army. I think it also takes APS2 parts? Not 100% sure, but I know its easier to upgrade VS the Echo1/Uk Arms.

 

[UGOTBEARDIED]

The Javelin is basically one of the "UTG MASTER SNIPERS" in the form of an m24. It has the same hop up as a UTG L96. It will take an aps2 piston sear, and cylinder assembly(piston, spring guide, spring).

 

[FelixTheGreat]

So UK is in the same boat as the E1, needs to be fixed with proprietaries.
And i remember reading the piston thing, and if it comes out ill be happy, might even buy another if it works correctly.

If I can find a CA in stock, that will probably be what I'll buy. Thanks for that info.

And the Javelin.. does that mean i can drop in a few parts and it will be up to par? Because I know of a UTG L96+Army trigger set that works amazingly well.

 

[UGOTBEARDIED]

Your going to have to upgrade the hop up. I would recommend you just get a completely new chamber because the hop-up is garbage. Also the sears are great and will probably last you a very long time.

 

[Wolfgeorge]

A good idea would be to buy a broken CA M24 and mod the stock to fit VSR receiver!
Some guys have done it with great success.

All M24 have their issues, I have the CA and I'm planning to do the TDC mod and see if I can use heavier bbs!


Wolf

 

[TYSONtheSNIPER]

Like wolf said, either find a broken CA and fix it up/modify it, or pick one up in the classifieds. You'll probably get a really good deal.

 

[FelixTheGreat]

Ill probably search the classifieds then. Are there any good places to look? I havent seen much for sale here.

 

[TYSONtheSNIPER]

Look around on Airsoft Forum, Airsoft Society, your local craigslist or Ebay.

 

[FelixTheGreat]

Ill start searching, thank you!

Edit: My Google-Fu must be low.. 7 pages into it and after countless sites I have found nothing. If anyone sees anything, (US side i guess, unless shipping will be semi alright), please tell me XD

 

[silentball]

The CA M24 is not perfect by any means.

I have one and it has it own unique issues.

Firstly the magazines are substandard compared to the VSR10 and M28 ones. The stagger style M24 magazine fails easily because the thin plastic edges of the follower breaks off easily. The other ugly thing is after the last shot if you are not careful closing the bolt, the nozzle will hit the follower and chances are break it.

On a VSR10 or M28, after the last shot, if you chamber an empty round, nothing happens. The VSR10 and M28 magazine is like an M4. Very nice.

The other issue I have, is that the pot metal bolt handle broke while pulling back. Then again, the bolt handle on the M28 broke last week.

http://airsoftsniperforum.com/showthread.php?t=5231

The build quality is not amazing. The hop up unit hole was off center and I had to buy a new because the dealer didn't want to fix it. The so called metal screws are soft and strip easily. I replaced them with new ones.

I highly suggest getting a better bolt handle on both M28 and M24. The M28 piston fails easily as well and you will get slam fire. "Ranger" is making an alum piston to fix the M28 problem.

Other than that the CA M24 is OK.

 

[~Ranger~]

I have a bolt handle on a cylinder I dont use buddy. Its a Socom Gear R700. Should be about the same as the Bar10's bolt handle. I might match up. Infact, on sunday when I'm not too busy I will take it off and see if it matches my M28.

Thanks for mentioning my pistons by the way :tup:

 

[FelixTheGreat]

If your pistons work, i may see about building a nice E1M28 out of it.

 

[~Ranger~]

Sweet.. Thanks buddy, I hope it all works out soon,lol..

 

[Barker328]

Idk if this is the same rifle but it has the same looking stock and mags. Pdi makes parts for m24 variants like the a&k and the snow wolf.

Here is a link to the Pdi distributors website:
http://www.x-fire.org/sw_m24/chamber/e.sw_m24_chamber.html

*Found a link to all the m24 parts:
http://www.x-fire.org/list/M24/e.M24_list.html

 

[Wolfgeorge]

No A&K and SW are completely different guns.
PDI though does make hop up chamber for the CA M24.


Wolf

 

[Barker328]

Thanks for clearing that up. I don't want to miss lead anyone. The parts Pdi makes for the a&k m24 are the cylinder set.

 

[Pixxa]

I was looking for an CA M24 myself, but I can't really find anyone in stock on the web. If I am correct it has been discontinued completely.

As far as I am aware the Snow Wolf M24 doesn't come with a fluted barrel, but there are pictures on google of the snow wolf m24 which does have a fluted barrel so I am confused?. The M28 has very limited upgrade parts but seems to have a overal decent build.

So assuming the CA M24 is not an option, which one should we choose then? The Javelin M24 or its brother Snow Wolf M24? or the Echo1 M28?

 

[~Ranger~]

I'm a very happy M28 owner. I dont know much about the Snow wolf etc..

The limited parts for the M28 is the lack of pistons "which I am currently making" and soon I will be making other parts to make the M28 less limited.

I can say there are a few things about the M28 which made me unhappy but there are solutions.

1. The stock pistons pretty much suck! They blow out in about 800 shots. But like I mentioned, I am making aluminum pistons.

2. No aftermarket hopup units. "I have a solution in mind and coming soon!"

3. Sometimes the mags misfeed, I fixed my issue pretty easily, on my website, I have a lonk to my forums. I posted a bunch of pics and in the pics I show how I fixed my misfeed issue.

I get great accuracy and range with my M28 that my Bar10's werent able to give me. "Stock M28 vs stock Bar10's" I got MUCH further range, MUCH further accurate range and better accuracy! Its a heavier rifle though. All in all I love my M28 and I cant imagine ever wanting another rifle! When I show up to a game, people tend to be afraid,hahaha..

 

[Pixxa]

I'm a very happy M28 owner. I dont know much about the Snow wolf etc..

The limited parts for the M28 is the lack of pistons "which I am currently making" and soon I will be making other parts to make the M28 less limited.

I can say there are a few things about the M28 which made me unhappy but there are solutions.

1. The stock pistons pretty much suck! They blow out in about 800 shots. But like I mentioned, I am making aluminum pistons.

2. No aftermarket hopup units. "I have a solution in mind and coming soon!"

3. Sometimes the mags misfeed, I fixed my issue pretty easily, on my website, I have a lonk to my forums. I posted a bunch of pics and in the pics I show how I fixed my misfeed issue.

I get great accuracy and range with my M28 that my Bar10's werent able to give me. "Stock M28 vs stock Bar10's" I got MUCH further range, MUCH further accurate range and better accuracy! Its a heavier rifle though. All in all I love my M28 and I cant imagine ever wanting another rifle! When I show up to a game, people tend to be afraid,hahaha..

Hi Ranger,

I am aware of your own piston creations as posted on the arniesairsoft forums Good idea, be sure to cover all costs tho! Shipping, labor, profits, taxes (I guess you are from the US, so I have no knowledge of starting a local business there but be also sure your business is registered so you wont get tax penalties).

I would like to hear the comments of the Snow Wolf M24 for the owners on this board as well. I am interested in this rifle because the Echo1 M28 isn't really available in mainland Europe.