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I have a designated marksmen loadout with an SR-25 shooting 550 fps with .20g, so my minimum engagement distance is 100 feet. So I am looking into getting a sidearm, my friend told me I should get a KWA MP7, but im afraid that would be to bulky. I will usually be running with a squad but not always and the field I play at has a fire base where sometimes we have to do room clearing. So any suggestions on what I should get would be greatly appreciated.
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Hi there. There is a rule around here that everyone first posts an introductory thread before they are allowed to post other places. After you have done that I'm sure you'll get quite a few suggestions.
Second to Madsvg.

But to answer you question, I am partial to the 1911 and Glock platform. If you want full auto without the bulk of the mp7, see if you can get a hold of a TM G18c. It may be a bit of work, but it would be totally worth it. With an extended mag you could clear to your hearts content and still switch back to a compact field sidearm.

That being said, the mp7 is fantastic. I know a guy who has one (fairly big guy) and he wore it in a leg holster all day. If I did end up persuading myself to spend the money, I would do it. Now if you are under 6ft, maybe not. They are big weapons. Another alternative would be the smaller mp9.

But if you want a pistol sized platform, look into a TM Glock or Hi Capa. If I could choose another sidearm, it would be one of those. Hands down. KWA does make some quality pistols, they are just proprietary so upgrading is nill. To their credit, they don't break easily or often.

Now my final comment would be, you don't really need full auto even for clearing a building. That is why out of all the ones I mentioned, I would get the pistols. If you like full auto, you can get them with it, but really, a quality sidearm with fast response is all you need IMO. (If you look hard enough you can find Hi Capa's with full auto.)

Hope this helps.
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Madavg: Why not ask him "nicely to make his intro" then answer his question.

Tekhnical: What is your budget? I would suggest a 1911 KWA/KJW or a Tokyo Marui Hi-Capa "1911 style" pistol
@Russian: he did ask him nicely. Agreed it would have been good to answer his question but told him very nicely. And of all people you shouldn't be telling people not to post. I think you have some good things to say, but don't tell and older and established member what and when to post. Especially if is something so little as an intro post reminder. Basic respect and courtesy here.
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KWA does make some quality pistols, they are just proprietary so upgrading is nill. To their credit, they don't break easily or often.
While I agree with pretty much the rest of your post I gotta disagree here. I've had nothing but problems with all the modern KWA pistols I've owned. The pre-NS2 pistols were absolutely fantastic, but the NS2 leaves much to be desired especially given the marketing and hype they were given. When something in it breaks you're then stuck with either a paperweight or using the same crap KWA OEM part that broke in the first place. Not to mention KWAs tend to underperform compared to the cheaper KJW and absolutely pale in comparison to TM, both brands that have ample upgrade and replacement parts available on the market should something go wrong or you want to squeeze a little more performance out of your sidearm.

And of all people you shouldn't be telling people not to post. I think you have some good things to say, but don't tell and older and established member what and when to post. Especially if is something so little as an intro post reminder. Basic respect and courtesy here.
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Interesting. I haven't heard a lot of bad things about KWA and was at least reasonably impressed with the one I have shot, but then again I have never shot a KJW or a TM. Good to hear from someone who knows. (I knew from your other posts they weren't great, but didn't know the problems were that significant.) Good to know!

I will say, after just discovering that my Elite Force destroyed the piston head and popped off the retaining nub on the nozzle, and trying to deal with incompatibility on my KWA aeg, I am fed up with proprietary parts. So it's looking like next pistol (if I get that far) will be a KJW! (Fortunately I have just acquired a lathe so I can machine a new piston head and I will find a solution for the retaining nub.)
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I apologize about not doing an introductory thread, I am of doing this on the fly while this was on my mind. I also do not have a set budget I wanted to find what I should get then save up towards it and I am not a fan of glocks, I just don't like them that much. I like the idea of the MP7 because of their ammo capacity ( the reason why I do not want a 1911 is purely ammo capacity because they are actually one of my favorite handguns) and I also hear about how accurate they are. I also am not looking to upgrade what ever I get, I just need something to close that 100 foot gap.
They make 50rd magazines for both the MP7 and the 1911 so ammo cap isn't a problem, I would still suggest the TM even though it is a plastic gun BUT it is very reliable and known so parts are available
Well I will look into that then, Thank you all for your input.
If I do go with a 1911 what holster do you guys suggest?
The TM 1911 is the option for you. They make extended magazines for both the hicapa and the single stack 1911s, so you'll never have an ammo capacity problem. TMs will not need any upgrades, though should you decide to customize in the future the option is always there.

Edit/ I would suggest a serpa holster. I've used them for every gun I own that serpa makes a holster for and absolutely love them.
Hey Lil_Shady don't they make a 40rd single stack Tokyo Marui magazine? and I do agree with you on that, I forgot to mention that you won't need to upgrade it at all, unless you want to.
The TM 1911 is the option for you. They make extended magazines for both the hicapa and the single stack 1911s, so you'll never have an ammo capacity problem. TMs will not need any upgrades, though should you decide to customize in the future the option is always there.

Edit/ I would suggest a serpa holster. I've used them for every gun I own that serpa makes a holster for and absolutely love them.
Hey Lil_Shady don't they make a 40rd single stack Tokyo Marui magazine? and I do agree with you on that, I forgot to mention that you won't need to upgrade it at all, unless you want to.
I just said that. Please read instead of continuing to make pointless posts.
I was just asking for the "actual" amount of its capacity.
If I were you, it would depend on how much I'm willing to carry. I get along fine with my WE M1911, with its 16 BB mags and all. Optimally you won't need that much anyways, but I wouldn't recommend getting something bulkier than a pistol. Even those really long mags are too bulky for me personally. What you could do is carry the pistol with a short mag in it, and have a long mag in a mag pouch somewhere on your kit.
At any rate, I'm mostly going with the above opinions. A pistol should be enough firepower for you, as a marksman.
I think it would be awkward to have an extended mag on a holstered gun. Personally, I would rather carry an extra standard mag or two.
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I have a hard time using anything other than a small GBB as a sidearm, as in a 1911 or block of some sort. I tried running other things that gave me more firepower but it is just a pain in the ass. Having been running a l96 at the time, it was already big and bulky. Adding anything to my kit besides a standard GBB sidearm proved more harm than good for me personally.

Despite using the ghillie and "staying low", it is airsoft, and I find myself having to make quick fast movements across open areas to even get to the woodbine at the field I go to. With that said, I would be far less mobile with anything besides my 1911, and would be worrying about something bigger getting in the way/breaking on me.

Plus, I'm not going into a house to clear buildings unless I really have to. Being the guy with a sniper rifle, I try to stick to my primary weapon whenever possible. As in providing the cover from the perimeter while others go in and do the dirty work.

My 2 cents.
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IM thinking about running an mp9 in a brugger and thomet leg holster as i don't mind the bulkyness but they are light weight.


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I have a hard time using anything other than a small GBB as a sidearm, as in a 1911 or block of some sort. I tried running other things that gave me more firepower but it is just a pain in the ass. Having been running a l96 at the time, it was already big and bulky. Adding anything to my kit besides a standard GBB sidearm proved more harm than good for me personally.

Despite using the ghillie and "staying low", it is airsoft, and I find myself having to make quick fast movements across open areas to even get to the woodbine at the field I go to. With that said, I would be far less mobile with anything besides my 1911, and would be worrying about something bigger getting in the way/breaking on me.

Plus, I'm not going into a house to clear buildings unless I really have to. Being the guy with a sniper rifle, I try to stick to my primary weapon whenever possible. As in providing the cover from the perimeter while others go in and do the dirty work.

My 2 cents.
Yeah, though AEP's might offer something too, since they are the same size.
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