[rex101898]

I'll start by saying that I have no idea if this is in the right spot or not. If it isnt, please move it mods.

I'm going out to my local store today to pickup a gun. I think its going to be a G&G M16 (full metal I believe). I already have a scope and bipod, but want the best perfermance out of it. If I have $100 (USD) to spend on upgrades, what should I get?

 

[exomatt]

Here's a massive guide that they have here, I'd start by checking through it.

http://www.airsoftsniperforum.com/showthread.php?t=892

 

[rex101898]

I guess thats helpful if you work on your own guns, but thats why I have the pro

 

[Libelle]

Will you do the installation or give it to a mechanic?

 

[bobgengeskahn]

$100 at a shop won't get you enough parts to make the shop time worth the upgrade. I would say either learn to do it yourself and use the $100 toward parts or save more money and do a whole internal upgrade at the same time.

If you want to teach yourself to tech here are some good places to start:
www.airsoftmechanics.com
www.mechbox.com

FYI - you'll have a Version 2 box. I'm not sure if that box has proprietary parts or anything weird about it, you'll have to do the research on that. (usually if you say you're interested in learning stuff, shop techs will give you pointers and info about your rig if you ask).

 

[Libelle]

Poppycock. There are certainly plenty of things that can be done. My DMR went was assembled for less than one-hundred dollars of parts, and most of the was for a barrel.

Rex, can you tell a bit more about it? What velocity by 0.20g BB do you plan to use?

 

[MGunner]

Poppycock. There are certainly plenty of things that can be done. My DMR went was assembled for less than one-hundred dollars of parts, and most of the was for a barrel.

Rex, can you tell a bit more about it? What velocity by 0.20g BB do you plan to use?

He meant that if you pay an Airsmith to do it for you, you wouldn't be able to get much out of it because you would need to pay for labor and parts.

 

[Libelle]

Well, for a DMR one will definitely need a good hopup bucking and nub. I had good luck with the Madbull Shark.

 

[rex101898]

@bobgengeskahn: I personally know the owner and techs at my store, so labor fees wont be an issue.

@Libelle: Wow, you are like the only helpfull person haha. I need to get as close to 400 as possible. My feild is dumb and doesnt understand that sniper should have engagment distances and not the same FPS as everyone else. But yeah, 400.

 

[auger]

A tightbore barrel will help with accuracy and FPS I'd say no more then 6.03. Like Libelle said a good hopup bucking and nub also a good tight airseal.

 

[Libelle]

Ha! Rex called me most helpful. That is funny, but never do it again.

I had to confer with my mechanic for good advice. We supposed you might like to put it on full-auto sometime, so he come up with this, what he described as a "bad ass AR build".

If you have full-auto you might use this:
SHS M120 Spring
Stock Motor
Stock Gearset
Metal Bushings (or at least 7mm bearings)
Dielectric Grease for trigger contacts
Strong Piston (20-25 dollars), probably an SHS with multiple metal teeth, (ask your mechanic)
Stock Piston Head
11.1 Lipo
Madbull Shark Bucking with the Herringbone Spacer

The expected cost is about 75 dollars. My mechanic also told me you should talk to your mechanic and see if you can get 8mm bearings in your gun. He also said you shuold look for a guide for stabilising an M16 barrel someplace on the internets. Sounds right to me, but the hows and whats of the process are beyond me.

 

[rex101898]

Thats not bad Libelle. Then the extra can go towards a TBB. Anyone have reviews of the Tanio Koba Twist Barrel?

 

[goldentrigun]

The TK barrels are made for guns which shoot 330fps.
For the price left in your budget you would have to get something like the madbull black pythons.

I dont like the Madbull red buckings. I've heard a lot of bad reviews about them causing mis-feeding and things of that nature. I would go for a prometheus soft or stock TM bucking.

Also when you go to buy a 11.1v lipo don't buy them from airsoft retailers. If you get them from hobby websites you'll pay $10 vs $50 on most airsoft websites.

I prefer metal bushings but bearings will suffice in setups sub 400FPS.


TBH though I would start with all the DIY mods you can and a few compression parts to see how close you can get your setup to 400fps. Then go back and start swapping out springs and things of that nature. You may find with a little elbow grease a few compression parts and a GOOD tbb you can eak out the 400fps you are looking for.

 

[WorstInFinlanD]

Well, if you want around 360 fps from it, you need to get
o-ring nozzle (6$),
nice grease for o rings and gears(6$),
ported pistonhead (15$),
metal bushings (8$), (to be reliable)
shims (4$)
nice bucking (8$)
if you can use some time, r-hop (12$).
Nice 0.3g bbs, g&g, bioshot, bioval, goldenball etc.
Save rest of the money for a prometheus 6.03 tbb.
This should get you an accurate and reliable dmr, and if get a r-hop, you can reach really far away too.
I pushed the prices of them up a bit, as I'm not sure about the prices out there, so they might be cheaper.
Clandestine airsoft is a great place for upgrade parts.

 

[rex101898]

R-hop? What is that and how does it increase range?

 

[WorstInFinlanD]

Go to airsoftmechanics.com there is a thread about it in the advanced technical.
Basically it gives more stable spin for the bb, increasing range and accuracy a lot.

 

[Libelle]

Rather than a small point on the bucking, the R-hop is square the size of the window in the barrel. So, since it touches the ball more, it can manipulate it more reliably.

I switched from a Madbull Shark to an r-hop, and it all got me was a bit of a tighter pattern at the max range.

A G&G piston head should already be ported, though.

 

[Cheese Man]

It is a patch that covers the barrel window. It aplies hop over a longer distance, and so you can get some really stable and effective backspin.

 

[rex101898]

I just got my gun today. Its a Top Tech M16 with the RIS. Instead of being smart and spending it on upgrades, I spent the extra money on a 203 haha. Guess the upgrades will have to wait another few weeks.

 

[revenant]

Agit quod agis. HAHA.