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Thanks for the help grass!

Right, so you say over 03, and under 05, so would you suggest the .04 being the perfect barrel to choose?

How does the zerotrigger compare to the vtrigger (doesn't the zero have the lightest pull, whereas the v makes the bolt pull easier?) I also had a look for the one you suggested on redwolf, but can't seem to find it, what make/model is it? A link would be great!:)

You say the precision cylinder is best for smoothness, isn't the palsonite even better? Also, why go for the raven cylinder, isn't it going to be basically the same as the stock cylinder?

What is the need in making an 'over the barrel MOCK silencer'? Simply to reduce the noise...?

And you see use power adjusters, I looked at those but couldn't understand, do they increase or decrease power? And which spring should I go for, there's either the 'APS240' which is suggested to give 430fps, and then the 'spr250%' which is suggested to give 530fps.

I'm thinking it may be best to just get the pdi cylinder set, should i go for VC or HD?

And cool, pdi bucking sounds good, why will I need 2 and a hop repair kit, do they break easily? And will the high arm give better results than normal?

Oh and one more thing, on the xfire website, I saw for sale they have 'y-rings' to replace orings on the piston or cylinder, apparently they make the bolt pull smoother, they're only sub
 

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[quote="joshh1512":q740armn]Thanks for the help grass!

Right, so you say over 03, and under 05, so would you suggest the .04 being the perfect barrel to choose?

How does the zerotrigger compare to the vtrigger (doesn't the zero have the lightest pull, whereas the v makes the bolt pull easier?) I also had a look for the one you suggested on redwolf, but can't seem to find it, what make/model is it? A link would be great!:)

You say the precision cylinder is best for smoothness, isn't the palsonite even better? Also, why go for the raven cylinder, isn't it going to be basically the same as the stock cylinder?

What is the need in making an 'over the barrel MOCK silencer'? Simply to reduce the noise...?

And you see use power adjusters, I looked at those but couldn't understand, do they increase or decrease power? And which spring should I go for, there's either the 'APS240' which is suggested to give 430fps, and then the 'spr250%' which is suggested to give 530fps.

I'm thinking it may be best to just get the pdi cylinder set, should i go for VC or HD?

And cool, pdi bucking sounds good, why will I need 2 and a hop repair kit, do they break easily? And will the high arm give better results than normal?

Oh and one more thing, on the xfire website, I saw for sale they have 'y-rings' to replace orings on the piston or cylinder, apparently they make the bolt pull smoother, they're only sub
 

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Right, HD set sounds good to me, the VC really wasn't great in my vsr!

Looked on the Agi website, unfortunately I don't think I can get it shipped to the UK. You said don't get the vtrigger, why not? What should I get instead?

I'll get the 530fps spring, and some power adjusters incase I cut it too much, (if i got the 430fps spring, would the power adjusters be able to bring it up to 500?) And how easy is it to cut the spring?

Again, 6.03 barrel sounds a better idea as it will be cheaper, will going for a prometheus barrel which will be half the price of the PDI still be as good, how will PDI be better?

And you are sure the 6.03 or 05 is going to be better than a 6.04?

I think for BB weight, I'll try with .3's if the weather is perfect, move up to .36's with a little wind, and .4's when it's really widny.

Oh, and you said about cutting the spring and making it not hit the cylinder head, is this not damaging for the gun? And how much would it need to be cut for it not to hit the cylinder head, so would taking 30fps off the spring be enough do you think? Or should i go for a higher rated spring again to certainly make sure it doesn't hit the cylinder head? I read your guide too, the only thing is, I don't want to have a big wrap of tape stuck to it, will I need to do this...?

Thanks once again.
 

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The polar star pistons are much better than just about anything on the market. And, you really don't need to replace the stock cylinder, or the cylinder head. Just taper it yourself. There is a guide on it.

I would suggest:
Laylax Spring guide (7 and 9 mm - that way you can use any spring you want)
Zero Trigger - amazing trigger pull, it can go off if it is set down too hard.
Polar star piston
PDI hop chamber (arms of choice, the regular ones worked for me)
Prommy/PDI 6.03
Guarder clear bucking, or a KWA 2GX bucking - those are incredible, they just wear out if you don't maintain them in a BASR.
Any spring on the market with the Z-trigger. I was thinking about a PDI SS 2000, and then cutting it to about 550 fps, around half the length
 

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Yes the polarstar pistons are better, I just love PDI for some reason ;)

The zerotrigger has an amazing triggerpull but it wouldn't be as reliable as the other two - (Judging from the way people talk about it and the obviously more complex design)

Also with the PDI chamber the w-hold bucking is the best trust me - with one and low hop up arms, for the laugh I zeroed in .4g BB's at like 135ft. and it was dead accurate, the only thing is it was travelling at like 10fps when it got there so you wouldn't feel it or hard it, and any wind would affect it.

The PDI hop up with the w-hold bucking IMO is an amazing combo. This was with like a 1 joule gun.

The PDI springs are supposed to be the best springs on the market too aren't they? Gaurders are v.good in AEG's I think.

And yeah, it is not that necessary to change the cylinder but TBH I would for a black one which is smoother, quieter and cooler any day. But I'd get the raven and save myself money, that cheap trigger I mentioned was tested at 670fps setup for like 6 months so I'd prefer to spend $80 over $150 any day on something that'll do the same thing.
 

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Yes, it was. Mine worked for about 4-5 years with nary an issue.

I was just posting my experience, and I have never had a w-hold bucking. Maybe in my next X-fire order...

I have no idea. I like them, personally, but my laylax spring worked just fine too.

But you don't need one. I use about 10-15 mL of white lithium grease on my cylinder every week, and it is quieter than the Teflon or palsonite cylinders, and a smoother bolt pull too. You save more money, and can put it towards a z-trig or a better barrel/hopup parts.

If the trigger box works, fine. I just like the trigger pull of the z-trig. ;)
 

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Haha Grass your advice is always awesome but sometimes you confuse the crap out of me....

inthetallgrass said:
The V trigger is cheaper and works with all pdi and stock parts, it is also more durable. Don't get the V trigger. Too many problems with the v trigger.

So yeha,

Hd palsonite cylinder set (the most expensive but the best)
V trigger or alternative
Pdi hop up unit and whold bucking
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V-trigger or not????? AAARGHHHH!!! haha


Love you man


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Yeh, so vtrigger or not as above hehe!

Anyway, ordered first batch of parts...

- pdi 6.04 495mm barrel
- pdi hop unit
- high arm for hop unit
- 2x whold buckings
- repair kit
- 'y-type' oring for cylinder

Next on the to do list is getting the gun to 500fps reliably and consistently, however as cheap as possible as getting a G3 which I need to DMR!

So any suggestions on what parts to go for?

I'm still consdering the Vtrigger, with the pdi cylinder set, however thats going to be
 
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