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If they do, please let me know as I'd probably be interested in getting some from you depending on how much they cost, if you wouldn't mind.
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The rat trap claymores I made weren't tandem. They were one trap, with the cloth pouch folded under the arm. Clever placement of a few eye hooks allowed the trip wire to be strung comfortably around, and same eye hooks also were used to "stake" the trap into the ground.
Mouse traps, while not powerful enough to throw BBs can be used as an alarm device. The "alarm" I used was four cap-gun caps. As you are looking down on the mouse trap, where the arm is designed to strike the rodent, nail through it four small headed nails at equal levels. Place your caps on top of that, and secure with a loose tape. Run your wires, arm the device, step away slowly. It makes a good noise, alerting you, your stalker, your spotter, and other friendlies in the area that some one has tripped your alarm.
To further add to the fun, I have been known to throw out bait in a nice open area. Such bait includes dead springer pistols painted black, dead/shells of M4 mags, bottles of BB's (stuff I swept up from the range and staging area where we play), and whatever irrecoverable detritus of the airsoft world I can get my hands on. Usually, a player will stop, look down for a few seconds, or crouch to examine if its a) worth keeping b) worth turning in to lost and found. In either case, they stopped to bent over and take a peek see, meaning its a much easier shot.
Mouse traps, while not powerful enough to throw BBs can be used as an alarm device. The "alarm" I used was four cap-gun caps. As you are looking down on the mouse trap, where the arm is designed to strike the rodent, nail through it four small headed nails at equal levels. Place your caps on top of that, and secure with a loose tape. Run your wires, arm the device, step away slowly. It makes a good noise, alerting you, your stalker, your spotter, and other friendlies in the area that some one has tripped your alarm.
To further add to the fun, I have been known to throw out bait in a nice open area. Such bait includes dead springer pistols painted black, dead/shells of M4 mags, bottles of BB's (stuff I swept up from the range and staging area where we play), and whatever irrecoverable detritus of the airsoft world I can get my hands on. Usually, a player will stop, look down for a few seconds, or crouch to examine if its a) worth keeping b) worth turning in to lost and found. In either case, they stopped to bent over and take a peek see, meaning its a much easier shot.
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I've found that using two traps does offer a bit more range and spread as to one, and the single trap designs I used don't take a box and are simpler to make. But I do like the imitated look of a claymore over the singe trap.
And I like your alarm idea, I think I'll try to make some and see how they work out as that's one of the other pieces of equipment I wanted to develop.
And the idea of distraction equipment in an open area is great too, never thought of that. I ought try it out this weekend. I can imagine it being helpful when sniping as getting that "perfect shot" is hard sometimes when your target is moving.
I also see your new here, welcome to the forum! I'd suggest making an intro post since it's part of the rules and maybe looking over some of the forum guideline stickies.
Thanks for the input!
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So essentially when someone kindly stops to pick it up to return it to its owner you shoot them? Does that not strike you as dishonest/dishonourable? Not something I would do. Maybe hang a glow stick in a tree or something 'strange' to make them look but not something that looks like its expensive and worth returning to its owner, that's just preying on kindness.
I like the cap idea though.
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Dishonest? No. Underhanded? Most definately. But then again, being underhanded is the point of being a sniper. We make use of silence, superior range, camoflauge, and field craft to dupe the enemy into thinking we are a pile of brush that will deliver a stinging welt from thin air. I take it one step further, and direct the enemy where I want them to stand.
I do however see your point. Might I counter with asking the difference between grabbing some one's attention via your bait vs mine? We are both trying to interupt an unpredictable pattern in behavior, and make it predictable. We both make use of something "uncommon", and potentially worth further investigation. We both want to use something of little value, but represent it as something as being worth potential reward to check out. In your case, its an oddly placed glow stick. In my case, its a bottle of random junk BBs. Both instances prey upon the same basic emotions. Would it help if I clarified that these ploys were only used during 24 hour operations? Basic skirmishes don't warrant going all out, to many new folks, younger players, etc. I also ran my underhanded ploys by game admins for the operations, along with verifying my homemade devices were "safe" enough.
I do however see your point. Might I counter with asking the difference between grabbing some one's attention via your bait vs mine? We are both trying to interupt an unpredictable pattern in behavior, and make it predictable. We both make use of something "uncommon", and potentially worth further investigation. We both want to use something of little value, but represent it as something as being worth potential reward to check out. In your case, its an oddly placed glow stick. In my case, its a bottle of random junk BBs. Both instances prey upon the same basic emotions. Would it help if I clarified that these ploys were only used during 24 hour operations? Basic skirmishes don't warrant going all out, to many new folks, younger players, etc. I also ran my underhanded ploys by game admins for the operations, along with verifying my homemade devices were "safe" enough.
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The basic difference is that if I saw a springer on the floor - thinking it might be a $150 to $200+ GBB and picked it up to take it back to the safe zone - I would be motivated by kindness.
If I stopped to look at something odd because I was confused I am not acting in kindness.
"Tricking" someone into being kind then shooting them is dishonourable in my book. If its just some worthless crap its fine but not a 'broken springer painted black'. If i lost a bottle of bb's and someone returned them to me I would be pleased so that's basically the same thing.
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I guess the fundamental difference in our opinion is that you appear think they want to take the potential gbb as a 'prize' (you use the term 'reward') whereas I would expect people to pick it up as an act of kindness. There is no 'reward' in me picking it up its just a nice thing to do.
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I have no problems with trickery and misdirection. Its taking advantage of a kind act that's the problem.
Look at it this way: If it was real life I would never compromise my position to return a discarded pistol to someone. But its not real life, its a game, so I would.
If I stopped to look at something odd because I was confused I am not acting in kindness.
"Tricking" someone into being kind then shooting them is dishonourable in my book. If its just some worthless crap its fine but not a 'broken springer painted black'. If i lost a bottle of bb's and someone returned them to me I would be pleased so that's basically the same thing.
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I guess the fundamental difference in our opinion is that you appear think they want to take the potential gbb as a 'prize' (you use the term 'reward') whereas I would expect people to pick it up as an act of kindness. There is no 'reward' in me picking it up its just a nice thing to do.
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I have no problems with trickery and misdirection. Its taking advantage of a kind act that's the problem.
Look at it this way: If it was real life I would never compromise my position to return a discarded pistol to someone. But its not real life, its a game, so I would.
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