Thanks for the input so far guys. So the SSG24 is off the table. I want a sniper for centurion events mainly. But will use at milsim if applicable.
This is interesting, as there is no price difference between the two.I hate to disagree with you 1Tonne but the BBTac M62 is much different than the DE M62. While BBTac is the parent company of Double Eagle, BBTac M62s are much better than DE M62s as Double Eagle is BBTac's cheap line. The DE M62 looks the same as the BBTac M62, but the DE M62 is made with cheaper parts. If you really want a good M62 go with the BBTac version. Double Eagle is just a cheaper line of BBTac made so less wealthy people could still afford airsoft.
45, seems to be pretty standard components. The upgrade video list I compiled details what replacement parts work - the claim "less upgrade parts available" really should be "less upgrade knowledge available" as that is a far more accurate statement.Does it have a 90 degree trigger or a 45 degree trigger?
Do you have link to the video
So if it was able to somehow get 650fps when stock with a 45 degree trigger, then that is amazing. But 45 degree triggers are not a good design at all and at that fps, they are very hard to cock and also wear out very, very fast.
I also wonder about the quality of the cylinder. If it is the same as Double Eagle, then that was not great.
I don't disagree, but this gun supports all of those parts, as the video playlist I linked demonstrates. People are saying this gun does not have upgrade parts, which is false. What is lacking is knowledge of what parts are and are not compatible.My ASG M40A3 had an aluminum cylinder with quite thick walls and a pinned in pot metal end piece.
The end piece was a little wobbly so I filled the gaps with super glue which I feel helps with wear.
Still, I really don't like the feeling of your cylinder breaking and being like, well, I guess my gun is broken forever.
So I DO NOT recommend guns without replaceable parts like the cylinder, piston, trigger, spring guide, cylinder head, and possibly hop chamber.
I don't use those crazy heavy bbs. I am a bit offended about describing it as a "cheap platform". While it isn't like 300 bucks that doesn't mean it isn't good.This is interesting, as there is no price difference between the two.
To the best of my knowledge - and from comparing the ASG M40A3 and my BBTac M62 - the two guns are identical. I have seen others claim the Double Eagle M62 has a beefed up spring compared to the ASG, but it seems like nowadays they all chrono around 440-460 out of the box.
Using .35-.40g bbs out of the stock gun, you can expect 230ft out of the stock gun whereupon the bb will drop like a rock. 250ft is about the max you'll get. Use the heavier bbs, since they are more accurate. As long as you are within 240ft, you shouldn't really have trouble hitting a target. For $80 this is sufficient for most players, being a perfect trial gun for someone looking to get into airsoft sniping or can't afford a nicer weapon.
For those that want a cheap platform to upgrade, I also think it is a good option. I have seen it described as a sleeper on here and elsewhere, and I'd tend to agree. I have put a Mr. Hop bucking in mine, as well as an upgrading spring. It can now lift .45g bbs out to 350ft (confirmed by google map and seeing the bbs on the ground), and probably further. I intend to make a much better range video next time I go out airsofting, but as my third child was born last week I wouldn't expect anything soon. I feel confident saying you can harass targets well at 300ft shooting into a 45 degree crosswind, as those were my test conditions.